[ SECRET POST #3255 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3255 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Paul Walker, Fast and Furious movies]


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[Inuyasha]


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[Z Nation]


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[Hugh Dancy (and Claire Danes)]


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[Jessica Jones]


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[The Oatmeal]


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[Star Wars: The Old Republic]


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[Harry Potter]










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Comments

[fscom]

02. http://i.imgur.com/VXiDtNv.jpg
[Paul Walker, Fast and Furious movies]

[kallanda_lee]

Yep. On the other hand, grief does weird things to people. And it's hard to accept your loved one was at fault.

[(Anonymous)]

It wasn't even Walker's fault, his friend (who was also killed in the crash) was the driver. Walker's family sued his estate as well, so clearly they're charming people.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't actually see what's so bad about that - the friend caused his death, right? It seems less far-fetched than the Porsche suit.

[(Anonymous)]

While I don't think it's the case here, sometimes insurance companies force their customers to sue others in order to fulfill their claim. There's that woman who went viral for a few days for suing her nephew for accidentally hurting her when he jumped in her arms for a hug (she sued him for $1 so she could get medical coverage for her legitimate injuries, but some people don't have any control over how much money insurance companies sue for in their name).

[(Anonymous)]

That was my thought. They need to make sense of their horrible loss, and unfortunately how they chose to do so.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that their complaint shouldn't lead anywhere, but it's not very useful to question peoples reaction to sorrow either. It can take many and very strange forms.

[(Anonymous)]

It can, but if your grief manifests in a particularly shitty way, I don't think that grieving is an excuse to act like an asshole.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not disagreeing, but acting like an asshole is one of the most common reactions. The assholish behavior should be rejected, but defensively. Grieving people can't take much reasoning anyway: it goes with intense grief. (Morale: when grieving and hating other grievers/parties/whatevs: let a non-griever regulate your lashing out. You'll be glad later.)

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[iceyred]

Sounds like somebody's desperate for a payday.

[(Anonymous)]

I essentially agree, though I vaguely remember some talk at the time that it was known to be a dangerous vehicle, which might be forming the basis of the claim. OTOH, if he and everyone else knew it was a dangerous vehicle, it was an even stupider thing to do.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe, but all vehicles are potentially dangerous if you're going to drive them too fast.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I don't disagree, but I seem to remember something being specifically dangerous about that car.

[(Anonymous)]

I also remember there being reports that even drivers with professional training had trouble controlling the beast of a car, which of course begs the question, if it's so hard to drive safely, why is it a thing?

But you know, some people just live to conquer things, challenges, ride bulls, so I can see how people would want to drive it.

[(Anonymous)]

He wasn't driving. It was the other man's fault. When you insure a car it is normal to insure it for personal injury. Usually you have to sue the insurance to get it to pay out because even though they should they will try to find any reason to not pay. It's also typical to sue everyone involved including the manufacturer of the car. Most of the case will be dismissed and then the insurance will pay his family like they are required. This is how the legal system works.

People who are saying that his family is just looking for a big payday are being gross. If you lost a father, brother, or son in a car accident wouldn't you expect the insurance to pay or would you just let the big company collect money and get away with not meeting their obligation?

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry to spoil the little frisson of self-righteous pleasure you must be getting from telling other people it's gross to criticize suing a dead man's estate, but the lawsuit isn't about personal injury or car insurance at all. *sad trombone noise*

[(Anonymous)]

wasn't there something about those type of cars having shit brakes (which played a part in the accident), and that instead of ending up with a relatively banged up car after a crash, the car literally turned into an accordion with them inside of it (crap material?). also it catched fire like, right away?

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't there some questions about the time around the time of his death? maybe the family knows something we don't.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

*About the car around the time of his death.

[(Anonymous)]

He was also a pedo so.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh - huh. Get off spreading lies about celebs anon?

[replicantangel]

I wonder if anyone calling Paul Walker's teenage daughter gross has read any articles about this. She's suing Porsche based for strict liability and negligence based on the unsafe design of the car - the suit says the vehicle didn't have features that could have prevented the vehicle from leaving the road which many racecar-inspired vehicles have, and that the safety features were lacking, which could have saved Walker's life, even if the crash had been unavoidable.

No one is denying that the driver was going far too fast or that reckless driving contributed to the accident. The suit says that Walker wouldn't have died had those features been present in the vehicle. (And the suit joins Rodas' estate, since they have to sue everyone with liability, so the jury can properly divide fault, if found.) Let's not forget that the vehicle also caught on fire, which is not supposed to happen with ANY vehicle when it crashes, but much less so with a racecar design.

Rodas' estate will probably not have to pay anything. The money is with Porsche, but with these mega-corps, this lawsuit won't bankrupt them. Don't be shedding tears for Porsche. If the jury finds that the design of the car is faulty, it will force Porsche to change that design to save lives or it will open itself up to other lawsuits (which could, cumulatively, damage its bottom line). MAYBE this is more about the safety of these vehicles than money. If it's about money, Porsche has several billion dollars - I can't shed tears over a few million going to support a teenager who has lost her father.

There are a lot of factors that go into motor vehicles crashes. Speed is just one factor. Engineering is a huge one too. I've seen people walk away from crashes that you would think they died if you saw the vehicle. And I've seen people die because of "minor" defects or mistakes. None of us have seen the accident reconstruction report, so we don't really know what factors kill these two men. That's what the jury is needed for - to decide. It might not be fair, but corporations are after money more than safety. They only care about safety because no one wants a car that will kill them in a fender bender (not to mention dead customers are not repeat customers). Unfortunately, that means lawsuits for a wrongful death are often the instrument of change.

[(Anonymous)]

At last,a voice of sanity in this ridiculous thread.

[(Anonymous)]

A standing ovation for you.