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fandomsecrets2015-12-04 06:38 pm
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[ SECRET POST #3257 ]
⌈ Secret Post #3257 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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03. [SPOILERS for Downton Abbey Season 6]
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04. [SPOILERS for Mockingjay Part 2]
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05. [SPOILERS for Undertale]
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06. [WARNING for rape]
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07. [WARNING for rape]
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08. [WARNING for child abuse]
[King Lear]
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09. [WARNING for abuse]
[Tales From the Borderlands]
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10. [WARNING for abuse, PTSD]
[Jessica Jones]
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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #465.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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TL;DR, I know
As for Voldemort, Loki, Hannibal, etc, of the ones I know: they're horrible people. Don't see much use in denying that; no matter what their reasons (and their reasons tend to be pretty eye-roll worthy, to me), they're still horrible. (Though, uh...I don't think Draco is quite on the same level as the others. Not that he isn't still a brat, but I wouldn't call him Voldemort, Loki, or Hannibal bad. I never finished the series so I could be wrong, but I remember reading about the last book and nothing like that jumped out at me.)
The difference between Hannibal and Kilgrave for me is that I can still find something to like about Hannibal. I've heard a lot of "Kilgrave is charming!" and don't at all get it because he's so damn rude and cruel all the time. Hannibal is a monster, but he has manners and seems to 'care' on a less superficial (though still incredibly twisted and wrong) level than Kilgrave does (because I don't think Kilgrave cares, at all, even superficially), so there are moments with him that take me off guard. He pulls off 'charming' better because he actually makes an effort to be cordial and doesn't go around killing and torturing people for 'no reason'. (Don't get me wrong, his 'reasons' are batshit insane, what with the way he thinks some people are no better than cattle so there's no harm in eating them, but it's easier for me to not completely hate a character who maintains a degree of normalcy and geniality some of the time and has their own 'code', fucked up as it might be, to someone like Kilgrave who I just find vile and disgusting all the time because there are no limits with him. There is nothing he won't do. Plus, Hannibal is of course a show that focuses on Hannibal from a more sympathetic POV, so that has something to do with it too; we constantly see Kilgrave through the eyes of his victims.)
That, and...the rape. Hannibal and Kilgrave are both serial killers (and abusers), but rape is one thing I have a hard time being okay with, even in fiction. (I suppose because it feels more 'real' to me, and murder, as awful as it is, is everywhere, even in kids games, so I'm more desensitized to it in a fictional setting. You aren't as likely to meet a cannibal or a mass murderer as you are someone more like Kilgrave, who won't take no for an answer, is obsessive and has no conscience.)
Loki...I find Loki to be more sympathetic than Kilgrave (not that it takes much for that), but I still think Loki is an ass-wipe. I can see the appeal (on some level; not to the extent that others do), but I don't agree with the parts of the fandom who think he does no wrong. They're all plenty wrong, but that doesn't mean people won't find something to enjoy about them. (Complexity included. People are often drawn to villains or antagonists that they see as complex, and fascinated by them because of all their faults. In that regard though, I don't get being fascinated by Kilgrave because he's pretty straight-forward. I think that just makes him more terrifying, though.)
Re: TL;DR, I know
(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)I love Kilgrave as a character, in that I think he's a great villain, and I can see people finding him compelling and wanting to write fucked up fic about him and all that... but he's also scarily close to some people in real life, to real evil that actually happens.
Re: TL;DR, I know