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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-05 03:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #3258 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3258 ⌋

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Re: Fandom conspiracies/controversies that you don't get

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-12-05 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
This was inspired by series 4 of The Great British Bakeoff and some of the stupidest controversies I've seen.

Holiday was sympathetic to Ruby because he was attracted to her? WTF? There was no evidence of attraction. She was clearly a very talented baker who had no self confidence. Admittedly I'm slightly biased because she was my favorite and I relate to her lack of self confidence. But still.

Also, claiming that the judges were biased towards women? I notice that no such comments were made about series 3's all-male final. The men just weren't that good in series 4. And the last male, Glenn, bombed so badly in his final challenge that it would have been ludicrous for anyone else to be eliminted.

Re: Fandom conspiracies/controversies that you don't get

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
* Hollywood

Ruby was good, but IMO, overrated. It became a more obvious toward the end that her lack of experience and finishing skills were a disadvantage, but she had an unfortunate habit of getting teary and apologizing repeatedly for how awful her bakes were. That sort of thing gets very old, very quickly. That said, I don't think it was necessarily attraction on Hollywood's part, and of course, he's only one judge. But I think her looks and the fact that people felt sorry for her didn't exactly hurt her chances.

But overall, series 4 had a weak field of contestants AND a weak finals round, IMO. The winner was not very impressive, either.
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Re: Fandom conspiracies/controversies that you don't get

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-12-05 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I agree. Series 4 was weak. But I never found Ruby's apologies annoying, probably because I do that too. I don't think it was fake. Some of us genuinely don't think anything we do is good even when it is. I think she was actually pretty skilled, though, at least compared to most of the other people that season. And I don't think her looks or people feeling sorry for her had anything to do with the times she did well. And the times she did do badly, she wasn't the worst.

Re: Fandom conspiracies/controversies that you don't get

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think her apologies were fake, but that doesn't make them less annoying, honestly. When people apologize for everything because they sincerely feel they messed up all the time, they often fail to realize that by doing this, they're putting an extra emotional burden on everyone around them to provide constant reassurances and affirmations.

In other words, instead of dealing with your insecurities on your own, you're asking everyone else to make you feel better... which isn't going to happen, because that's not really how these irrational insecurities work, you know? I've been on the receiving end of that from friends, and it's very emotionally draining after a while.

Re: Bake Off

Oh, undoubtedly Ruby is a talented baker. I just think that there were other factors in play that gave her an advantage as well, and having a personality that evokes a sympathetic reaction is one of those factors.