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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-06 03:28 pm

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Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Not true. It's celebrated in both the US and Canada, and IDK about the US, but here in Canada it IS a Christian holiday and the only people who celebrate it are Christians.
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Re: Opinions people judge you for

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-06 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Canadian Thanksgiving =/= American Thanksgiving

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
but here in Canada it IS a Christian holiday and the only people who celebrate it are Christians.

What? I'm sitting here in Canada right now, I'm pretty sure I'm much older than you, and this is the first I've ever heard of Thanksgiving being a Christian holiday. (And I'm Catholic, so I presume that's considered nominally Christian by most people.)

I'd say the concept of Thanksgiving here is definitely borrowed from the Americans, but is more of a fall supper kind of thing. It is not a big deal. It's a day off work, with a turkey dinner. There aren't any religious aspects to it, unless you count "being mindful or thankful for the good things in your life" a religious thing.

But why let any of that get in the way of the peculiar argument you seem intent on making?

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Never met a non-Christian in Canada who celebrates Thanksgiving. Perhaps it's a regional thing.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Well, my non-Christian immigrant co-workers do tend to dispense with the turkey, and just go with a meal they prefer, but in Canada I do tend to think that Thanksgiving is mostly just a long weekend with a more elaborate than usual family meal (traditionally turkey).

And yes, it could totally be a regional thing. I'm on the prairies, so there are quite a few fall suppers to begin with. I have no idea if that's the case elsewhere.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I am Canadian and VERY atheist. My entire family is atheist. Many of my friends are atheist. And we all love Thanksgiving.

You're trying so hard here, anon, but your argument just keeps getting thinner and thinner and more detached from reality.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

If anyone's attached from reality here it's you.

Or do you mean to tell me that there's no way an atheist could possibly be a product of a Christian culture?

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
I mean to tell you that I first expressed my staunch atheism at four years old, when my father explained infinity to me and I said "So infinity is kind of like God, but not made up?"

I'm telling you that my father, mother, and step father were all born atheist and have never been anything but atheist.

I'm telling you that in the city I live in, and have lived in most of my life, 48.8% of the population claim "no religious affiliation" while only 36.2% identify as Christian in any capacity. So if anything, my environment is predominantly characterized by it's lack of religious belief.

And finally, I'm telling you that I have rejected every piece of religious ideology I've come across, except for the staggeringly obvious and fairly universal ones, like not doing harm to others unless you absolutely have to. You wanna argue it's my "Christian culture" instilling in me a fondness for good food, family, friends, and free time? Lol, okay, but you should really spend some time with good old Occam. You seem to have a strange and persistent inclination to overlook horses for the remote possibility of uncovering a zebra.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
By "born atheist" I mean "atheist from as young as one can remember." You seem the type to deliberately misunderstand things, so I figured I'd clarify.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't everyone born atheist? Religion is just one of the many things you have to learn as you grow up, like not pooping in your diaper and saying something other than babababababa
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Re: Opinions people judge you for

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-12-07 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to presume it's mostly celebrated by descendants of original settles, who were Christian, so there'd be a large overlap?

So, by numbers, it would be a holiday celebrated b a lot of Christians, but that doesn't make it a Christian holiday. There is literally noting in the Bible (or in Orthodox, Catholic, gnostic or whichever Christian related tradition about it).

It's basically just an American holiday/tradition.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, this.
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Re: Opinions people judge you for

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-07 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This exactly. The definition of "Christian holiday" is a holiday that's on the Christian liturgical calendar, and I'd imagine it's the same for other religions. Christianity decides what its holidays are. Culturally Christian holidays (as far as that even goes, since obviously there's a lot of debate about whether that applies to Thanksgiving) don't become Christian holidays just...because.