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⌈ Secret Post #3261 ⌋

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Comments

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

The problem with Aragorn is that he's too much of a "Noble Man' archetype. PJ tried to inject a little bit of humanity into him by making him unsure about his role, but it really struck me when I reread the books after the movies first came out that he really didn't have any of that in the text. I think the unsureness makes him better.

Legolas felt like a total airhead in the books who was simply there to "I'm an Elf! I'm so perfect!" and to be half of a friendship that failed to grab me (the friendship with Gimli). The movies only added bits of stating the obvious and flashy stunts to him, and The Hobbit was worse because he took up too much screen time.

So... umm, I don't really disagree with you much? I Aragorn for the archetype he's supposed to be, but beyond that... *Shrug* I'd rather wander off and find a good Boromir fic.

[philstar22]

The friendship with Gimli is actually the one thing that makes Legolas interesting. I'm usually all about elves, but Gimli is the far more interesting of the two. I love their friendship.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Yes, well I think the problem I have is that Gimli failed to be interesting for me, right from the start. Put two characters who fail to grab me into some epic friendship... and the friendship fails to be interesting.

I think way back when I first read the books the characters who really caught my interest were the four hobbits, because they were the ones who were written to be the relatable reader avatars.

[philstar22]

Ah, see, I don't necessarily gravitate towards those sorts of "relatable" character. I'm more interested in epic characters. So the Hobbits, apart from Bilbo and later on in the books Sam, never really did much for me.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, in my case, having faces onscreen does help me grow fonder of some characters. Like when I first read the books (back in my teens some time) I didn't really get all that attached to any of the human characters. The movies did that for me, and I wholly admit that having a good-looking face on quite a few of them made me actually pay attention long enough to properly appreciate their stories.

[philstar22]

That makes sense. I just really like epic things. I don't feel the need to relate. The bigger the scale, the more likely I am to like something. I think that's one reason I prefer the Silmarillion to LOTR or the Hobbit.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Gimli's my favorite character, and he makes me care about Legolas far more than I would've otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

The uncertainty exists in the text. Beyond a shadow of a doubt. It's a central aspect of his archetype, really.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I must have had difficulty seeing it then.

[(Anonymous)]

Could be, could be.

[type_wild]

I just gotta chime in that the whole airhead thing is a lot of the reason why I love Legolas in the books - and find him so desperately boring in the films. I think it's because I was primarily a Hobbit fan who desperately looked for the same lightheartedness in LotR, and outside of the hobbits (-Frodo), the closest I got was Legolas and his "lol gais~". It also helped that he was so closely tied to the only dwarf among them.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

That makes me wonder what sort of effect reading LotR first had on how I took to things. Maybe if I had a prior attachment to dwarves I might have been more open to Gimli and through him Legolas as well.