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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-12 04:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3265 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You said morality is relative. Is it, though? Is raping kids ever not immoral? Torturing innocent people to death? I mean, I'm 100% comfortable saying those things are never morally permissible, and that naturally, probably the average person would have trouble accepting either of those things, though some societies regularly commit these acts and even condition their people to normalize them. But it isn't relative. It's the very definition of immoral behavior.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-12 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And that's understandable that you feel that way about those actions, because there has been research that indicates that some moral feelings/senses are inborn--we don't have to be conditioned to have them, we're biologically wired to have certain responses to such stimuli.

The fact that almost all of us have an innate repulsion/rejection of certain actions, doesn't prove absolute morality however.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
See, but to me, it does. "Morality" is certainly a man-made concept, but it describes sensations of biological repulsion from the evolved experiences of humans (and to some extent, other animals as well). I don't believe morality is a thing separate from human experience, or something that has divine origins. However, it does have a definition. Real life, complex issues can absolutely be gray and relative (because they could pit two "moral" goals against one another). But as morality is defined, savage and cruel behavior is precisely what immorality always is. The term is useless if it doesn't have any backbone at all.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
If you're going on the fact that some things instinctively make us recoil = immoral though, does our instinctive aversion to snakes and spiders mean those animals are immoral? Or are things like child rape and murder horrible to us because it harms our chances of survival as a group, like poisonous snakes harm our chances of survival as an individual? I don't have a stance on it either way but it's interesting to think about

(Anonymous) 2015-12-18 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
See, defining what is is "morality", or "does it exist" is a problem of meta-ethics.