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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-12 04:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3265 ]


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Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Safe spaces, to me, are valuable in a limited context. For example, at a school, a particular professor or counselor's office might have an "LGBT safe space" sign on it, so students can feel comfortable coming to someone about particular issues if they are having problems - particularly issues which they might be stigmatized for, like being gay.

I'm not sure how useful a "safe space from ANYTHING TRIGGERING" could possibly be.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how useful a "safe space from ANYTHING TRIGGERING" could possibly be.

Can you elaborate?

As someone above said, ideally, every place on earth should be a safe space from discriminatory behavior. That isn't the reality, and we have to work with that.

But how would someone not experiencing emotional distress at something not be useful?

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but

as someone with ptsd due to rape and other traumas, the idea that such a space exists is ime laughable. For most people triggers aren't some simple cut-and-dry thing. Just avoiding the discussion of rape or abuse or whatever doesn't somehow stop you from being triggered, because chances are good what's actually triggering is just some stupid bullshit that no-one could ever possibly know to warn for. baggy jeans, or red hoodies, or NSync b/c that's what you were listening to when you were attacked, or whatever.

Same with phobias. You can always warn for the common ones (spiders, heights, etc) but there's people with phobias of fucking everything. And do you ban all discussion of food b/c someone with an ED might be upset by it? Does their avoidance of emotional distress trump another ED sufferer's desire to talk about food b/c it makes them more excited to eat healthily?

Emotional distress is just a part of being alive. It's admirable to want to protect people from it, but that's an impossible goal and really not worth striving for. For every person you manage to protect, there'll be another that you've made feel uncomfortable b/c they can no longer openly talk about their own experiences.
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Re: Safe Spaces

[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-12-13 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I'm gonna go back to the old way of "tagging" things.

Warnings: Rape, Offensive Language, etc.
Squicks: Age Gap, Under Age Teen Sex, etc.

Cause Trigger Warning just, imo, doesn't fit, cause otherwise, you'd have to "TW" for EVERYTHING under the sun.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get it. A school counsellor's office should generally be that.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"counselor's office"

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
But it often isn't. A friend of mine hinted at our counselor that he might be gay and the guy basically gave him flyers for a bible camp. After that it took me years to trust counselors and therapists. Some sign that the therapist is queer-friendly would have made picking the right one when I was depressed and in need of help.

Re: Safe Spaces

(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. One of my friends had a counselor whose solution to the problems she was having was "try being straight."