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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-12 04:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3265 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-12-12 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I miss cartoons from the 80s, in which everything was super fun (Jem, TMNT, GI Joe) and you have the lessons of the day (don't do drugs, don't touch live cable wires, don't go to the lake during a thunder storm, etc.).

I'm glad today's cartoons are trying to be progressive, but let's be honest: the 80s and 90s were a lot better, especially when they slip in adult humor/situations that children won't understand (this happened a lot with Animaniacs and Tiny Toon Adventures).

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Not gonna lie, I agree with this. I'm kind of glad a few cartoons nowadays still do it (Transformers Rescue Bots comes to mind oddly enough).

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Have you actually watched any episodes of those classic cartoons since the 80's?

They're generally low quality unwatchable dreck that kids these days won't have a bar of. (Source: Actual kids I am related to) They were often written by a stable of writers who had to push out 10+ episodes a week for various to-sell-toys shows. Kids are much more nuanced consumers of entertainment than you'd expect, once they've had a taste of good writing then they're not going back.

For example Transformers: Prime and Transformers Animated have solid plots, good characters and consistent quality. Unlike Generation 1 which is still held up by nostalgic adults as being the pinnacle of the Transformers franchise.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-13 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Unlike Generation 1 which is still held up by nostalgic adults as being the pinnacle of the Transformers franchise.

It may not be the pinnacle, but it's still pretty good. I wasn't alive for its original airing, so I don't have nostalgia to influence me. TFA and Prime might be better, but G1 is fine, and has a unique charm.

Newer isn't necessarily better, and poor programming is still pushed to sell toys. Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015) has pretty poor and inconsistent writing.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Those are American shows. 80's European and Japanese kids' cartoons still skewed to morally grey.

Little Timmy couldn't handle much more than "Bad guys and Good guys".

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I don't agree. I definitely think a lot of more recent cartoons aren't great. I fell out of cartoon watching for a long time because I got tired of the low quality I kept seeing. They really hit a slump for a while. But shows like Steven Universe have been the ultimate breath of fresh air I've always wanted but never received growing up. Sure, I loved things like Power Puff Girls and other 90s cartoons, but holy fuck. Having something other than black/white morality, character arcs, 100% continuity, and things as simple as characters actually changing their fucking outfits once in a while is fantastic. The superfun ridic cartoons still exist (see: Gumball and that magical girl show with the girl on Disney channel I forgot) and I don't watch them because I have 0 interest in those kinds of shows anymore, even though they stopped the dumb PSA garbage I ignored as a child. I used to get excited when I'd watch Rugrats and things would happen and it would be a permanent thing. I hated when something terrible would happen and then by the next episode it was never brought up again and long term consequences didn't exist.

The reason I moved onto anime for a while was because anime actually had the things I wanted out of my cartoons as a kid, so in my middle school and teenage years I shunned western cartoons. Claiming 80s and 90s cartoons are the pinnacle of cartoonage is just rosey colored nostalgia horseshit to me. I love the things I grew up with, but Steven Universe makes me wish I were currently a 10 year old growing up with it because I know it would have meant a lot to me, a lot more than anything else I watched growing up.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-13 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
I hated lesson of the day shows.