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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-15 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3268 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3268 ⌋

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[Jade Empire]


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[Murcielago]


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[The Last Kingdom]


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[Mystery Science Theater 3000]


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[Girl Meets World]


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[Final Fantasy 6]


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[2NE1]


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[Krysten Ritter in Jessica Jones vs. Michael Jackson]


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[Sweet Fuse/Bakudan Handan]


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[Vriska - Homestuck]


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[The Mighty Boosh]












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[personal profile] fscom 2015-12-15 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
04. http://i.imgur.com/bqKrwuX.jpg
[The Last Kingdom]

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought this show was great too, but I wouldn't say it was "far better" than Vikings :/

You don't think Vikings has good female characters?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Is this meant to be Stephen vs Maude (Matilda)? If so, interesting.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's way further back-- set around the time of the Danish invasion into what later is known as England. Basically it's a time when England was in the process of changing from a land with regional Anglo-Saxon kings (King of Mercia, King of Wessex, etc.) to a united kingdom under Alfred the Great.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
The MALE main character is annoying as hell. Brida is my absolute favorite (not being very impressed with boyish overcome everything by not giving a fuck-guy).

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno. Brida seemed like a very flat character to me. She spends most of the series stomping around and yelling at things that don't go her way. Her inability to grasp that there is value in intelligence and diplomacy (as opposed to fighting and killing) doesn't really make her come off too well, either.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
DA - I remember how, at the beginning of the show, I thought Brida was the voice of reason, and I can live happily with the woman being the reasonable one. But instead she just went... bitter and angry and violent? Not that she doesn't have reason to be bitter, she hasn't had the best life, what with witnessing the massacre of her family twice, and both times having to live (or at least pretend to be allied) with the killers. That can mess somebody up, I get that. Still, she just went over the top with her unreasonable hostility and hatred of all things English, judging and eventually including Uhtred simply because he wouldn't rejoin the vikings. After all, it was vikings that killed Ragnar, and allying yourself with the English does give you more opportunity to go up against those (whereas young Ragnar decided that he could not seek revenge for his father's death for the time being).

Her angry routine of trying to solve problems by yelling, hitting them, or just walking away when she doesn't get what she wants would have worked better for me if her motivations would have made more sense/been shown to have more depth. As is, there was just something missing.

Not that the show is brimming with multi-layered, three-dimensional female characters. There's The Shrew, The Devout, and The Virgin (whose virginity is magic). Very non-stereotypical, really. In the end, I think I liked Hild best. Her progression from nun and victim to messenger and fighter screaming for blood made sense to me, and even though she was thereto be raped and have her trauma be a tool to show why we don't like the bad guys, she was more her own character than the others, who were relevant primarily in regards to what they were to their men.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt - Yes, that describes Brida's role very succintly, IMO. She had potential, but it didn't really go anywhere. In order to create conflict with Uhtred, she lapses into the shrill ragemonster role far too frequently. Even in situations where seriously, you're surrounded by armed Saxons who hate the Danes, shrieking about how horrible Saxons are and how Uhtred should join the Danes is something only a fucking moron would do.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
Personal Pet Peeve Time: "Yeah, this historical character was Great and all (this one's even got 'the Great' stuck onto the end of his name!), but he couldn't have done it without my Gary-Stu!"

Disclaimer: Only watched the first two episodes and caught snatches of the others since my mum liked it. Liked their Alfred, mostly, could not stand MC.

... Liked the opening credit sequence though.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
This feels like one of those cases where the term "Gary Stu" is thrown around too readily. Uhtred has plenty of flaws: his temper, his obsession with getting back Bebbanburg, his lack of diplomacy and stubbornness in the face of people trying to tell him how to get along in Saxon culture, etc. He's brave and a good fighter, but it doesn't mean he doesn't do some really stupid, impulsive things. If anything, I think he's a pretty good protagonist.