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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

how do you figure?

[(Anonymous)]

OP is talking about the ideas of beautiful and normal as if they are mutually exclusive. As if they are not the exact same thing. All women are beautiful. Beauty is normal. Normal is not the absence of beauty. And suggesting that beauty is some exceptional standard only a rare few genetically gifted women can achieve? That is misogyny.

[(Anonymous)]

i see.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly? I hate this. I'd much rather have a society that acknowledges that beauty is a thing, while maintaining that it isn't the most important thing in the world, and that it's okay to be skilled/gifted in other areas. For example, I am not beautiful. I'm okay with this, because I'm skilled in other ways. I just wish that society would acknowledge that beauty isn't the be-all and end-all of Important Human Traits.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. Not everybody is beautiful. I think that understanding that beauty isn't the be-all-end-all of existance is a lot more meaningful than pretending everybody is beautiful.
Saying however that there is beauty in most everybody is true, imo.

[blitzwing]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed.

[kallanda_lee]

Yup. And I also think it's unrealistic you expect people not to like attractive human beings, visually.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. If anything, this idea that "all women are beautiful" puts feminism back a few steps IMO, because it refuses to acknowledge that "beauty" is not pertinent to our inherit value as human beings. Women don't have to be beautiful in order to be acceptable. Sorry not sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

Dear god. Pull your head out and get some air sometimes.

[(Anonymous)]

oh ok

Your vocabulary is broken

[(Anonymous)]

I suggest you brush up on it if you want to make a decent argument.

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misogyny
noun mi·sog·y·ny \mə-ˈsä-jə-nē\
Definition of misogyny

: a hatred of women

miso·gy·nic play \ˌmi-sə-ˈji-nik, -ˈgī-\ adjective
mi·sog·y·nist play \mə-ˈsä-jə-nist\ noun or adjective
mi·sog·y·nis·tic play \mə-ˌsä-jə-ˈnis-tik\ adjective

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misogynist
[mi-soj-uh-nist, mahy‐]

noun
1.
a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women.
Related forms
misogynistic, adjective

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[(Anonymous)]

mistrusts?

I don't think that belongs in there.

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[sarillia]

I'm pretty comfortable saying there's something wrong if you mistrust women as a group and not men. It's likely based on the same stereotypes as dislike and hatred.

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[(Anonymous)]

Or experiences? I distrust angry women but not angry men. Because my ex- stepmom was an abusive bitch.

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[(Anonymous)]

Some women have very valid reasons to be angry sometimes. Your stepmom probably didn't, but what you've got there is still a prejudice.

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[kallanda_lee]

But then you acknowledge it's based on experiences. You probably rationally realize angry women are not inherently more dangerous than angry men.

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[(Anonymous)]

What if you distrust men, is that misandry?

It's likely based is not anything.

first, you can't know why someone distrusts somone else, and "It's likely based" is just like saying "I don't know but it's conveniant for me to think this about this person"

I agree that mistrust can come from hatred, but mistrust is not the same as hatred. I mistrust dogs. This does not mean I hate dogs. No I am not comparing women to dogs so drop that shit off right here (If you were thinking it if not, please accept my apologies) I am comparing mistrust to hatred.

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[sarillia]

It's less about the mistrust itself and more about treating a group that makes up half the world's population as though they can be judged by that trait. I think there's something wrong if you are attributing positive stereotypes to them too, instead of acknowledging the individuality and wildly varying character of all people.

It's not about being upset that people are thinking something bad about women. It's just that it is utterly nonsensical to me for someone to say "I don't trust women" when there is not a single thing that is true of all women.

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[(Anonymous)]

that could simply be mis-informaton, ignorance, bad experiences, or run of the mill fear. Sure it's not healthy and not a good way to be, and certain;y not rational, but suggesting it's hatred is kinda unhelpful.

Re: Your vocabulary is broken

[sarillia]

I never said it was hatred. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Because I supported tying mistrust to a definition of misogyny that explicitly included things other than hatred? I don't get it.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope.

[(Anonymous)]

Whatever happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"?

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly don't understand this. Nobody would claim that every single person (or every single woman) is funny. Or intelligent. Or kind. Or musically talented. Or has a gorgeous singing voice. Or any of the thousands of other positive traits someone can have - or not have. So why on earth would every single woman be beautiful? If that was the case, the word 'beautiful' would lose any meaning, just like the word 'funny' would lose any meaning if we suddenly started pretending that every single person in the world is hilarious, or like the word 'intelligent' would lose any meaning if we suddenly started pretending that every single person in the world was brilliant.

What's misogynistic is basing a woman's worth on her looks alone and treating women who aren't beautiful worse than beautiful women. Not admitting that not every woman in the world is gorgeous.

[(Anonymous)]

Rubbish. All women are not beautiful. Most are so-so, some are beautiful and some are ugly. Same as men.

Yrs, a so-so woman bordering on ugly. Honest enough to know, self confident enough not to care. I have other things going for me.