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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-26 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3279 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3279 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it so VERY hard to let us know the name of the book you're talking about?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP.

It's The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison (aka Sarah Monette). I liked it a lot!

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I imagine it's about as difficult as doing a reverse Google image search and finding out for yourself.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

For anybody reading on a tablet or phone, that's way too much of an effort for idle curiosity, and how are we to know the graphic is related to the fandom and not some random image?

Fuck, just typing this out on my tablet has taken four minutes.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Veering slightly OT, but this is why I've never got into tablets. I still love my little laptop, and even my big old desktop! <3

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Granted it's idle curiosity, if a person's not willing to put in any effort to satisfy their idle curiosity, why would they assume that anyone else is? And even if you're going to presume, why not ask nicely instead of being snide?

Hint: It's because they're not really that curious, they just wanted to be snide about it.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, forgot.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2015-12-26 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Feminist agenda? You're killing me lmao

(Anonymous) 2015-12-26 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Making them green goblins probably wouldn't make a difference. The people complaining now would continue to complain, they'd just say they were "coded" black instead of green. So just enjoy the book on its own merits.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
na

The people complaining now would continue to complain, they'd just say they were "coded" black instead of green

Yup, that's my guess, as well.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Feminist agenda?

You sound like an ass-hole that the world would be better off without.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2015-12-27 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
The main character is male?

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for your input!

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, I looked up the book and am now interested in it. Did you like it, OP? I can't quite tell from your secret.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
The main character is sympathetic and it has fic levels of angst. It's also a page turner if a bit naive. I'm not sorry I read it but I won't read it again.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
AT least it sounds better than Doctrine of Labyrinths...
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[personal profile] kaffy_r 2015-12-27 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Given that the Goblins end up being more admirable in several ways than the Elves, while the Elves have a few decent attitudes of their own, it sounds like they're, you know, interesting cultures in which people can be made of individual Win and Fail.

And if a story that looks at a male-central society and introduces some female characters who work within that society - in ways that are sort of background to the primary plot, which rolls along quite nicely, and isn't bogged down by those characters - is an example of a "blatant feminist agenda," I'm a) struck with awe at your ability to be so easily aggrieved and b) hopeful that I can find more stories with that kind of blatant feminist agenda.

I'm sure you can find other stories that meet your exacting standards of ... whatever the hell your standards are.

OP

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is that this feminist agenda didn't move the plot. It was used only to establish that the main hero is good and to show readers that that's the decent way to act as if anyone doubts it.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] kaffy_r 2015-12-27 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's a bad thing. There are untold numbers of stories where events take place in behind the plot. Sometimes, they simply add to the depth, the richness of the world that's been created in which the main story goes forward. And in this case, showing what the main character does, rather than have him declaim about it, makes the world that much more three-dimensional.

Also, when you stop to think about it, the actions he took with his aunts are less an issue of message agenda than proof of his character - much as his ultimate decision to deal with his uncle with fairness rather than revenge is, or his decision to visit the funeral of the ship's crew.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
not teh dreaded feminist agenda!

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
This made me laugh.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-12-27 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
My issue was more the jargon. I started losing track of all the words at some point, and I wish they'd found a better balance.

I thought the book was decent, but ultimately a bit forgettable.