[ SECRET POST #3280 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3280 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

yup

the desperate "but it never said she was white anywhere in the books" was... well, desperate

plus the whole mudblood thing works better as a metaphor for racism than it does as actual racism

plus... her name's hermione granger, which is one of the whitest names you can get (seriously, you're not going to assume a character called cecil poncington-smythe is black)

plus if anything she's clearly asian - both her parents are dentists >:-p

[dratinis]

Black people can have pretty white sounding names, but I do agree that the tweet I saw came across as a little too desperate.

Meh. It's no skin off my nose. She's cool with it, which is pretty A+ to me, considering how some authors get up in arms about other fannish things.

[ms_scarletibis]

White Sounding Names:

Flavor Flav's name is William Drayton.

[ceebeegee]

Here's another: Frederick Douglass (aka Frederick Augustus Washington Bailey).

[(Anonymous)]

My mother almost named me Sarah Elizabeth and my brother Phillip Charles.

[erinptah]

Eh, I don't think she's trying to score points for herself there, I think she's refusing to let people use her as a weapon in their "hdu imagine Hermione as black, it's Not Canon" crusades. Which is legit.

[(Anonymous)]

That's well-said.

[likeadeuce]

Yes, this.

[(Anonymous)]

+10000000

This is exactly how I read her reaction too.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, this.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not uncommon for the children of immigrants to have "white" names, though. My parents gave me and my siblings fairly European sounding names so we'd fit in better.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, i was thinking about that myself when i was formulating the argument in my head the other day :p

[tabaqui]

This. I went to school with several kids who were born in Korea but immigrated, and they had chosen (or had chosen for them) 'American' names. So I was in class with Koreans named Agnes, and Naomi, and Ron.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I went to school with Asians named Jessica, Lily, Grace, Amy, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

"Hermione Granger" sounds as much like a black person as "Tess Gerritsen" or "Adrienne Clarkson" sound like enthnically Chinese people.

Tess Gerritsen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tess_Gerritsen

Adrienne Clarkson: http://adrienneclarkson.com/welcome

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair though, "Gerritsen" is her married name.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that's one way people end up with the family names they have. A name doesn't necessarily reflect ethnicity.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. You're talking to one such person right now. But since the original discussion is about a character whose surname wasn't gained through marriage, it seems a little more on point to make the distinction.

[(Anonymous)]

Hermione's parents are married though?

[raspberryrain]

That name sounds reasonable enough for someone with roots in the West Indies or Guyana--like a lot of blacks in Britain.

The President of Guyana is named David Granger.

There's a Grenadian-born scholar named Hermione McKenzie, and I'd say she's mixed.

So I conclude that "Hermione Granger" is more likely for a Briton of West Indian descent than "Draco Malfoy" is for a white Briton.

[(Anonymous)]

Just going to point out, along with the other anons, white name does not equal white person. My name is about as Irish as Colleen McKernan and I am not white. I do have light/olive skin, and I do pale etc. But guess what, still a PoC.

All things aside, why not a PoC Granger? In the least she could be racially mixed. It could explain her hair. Certainly explains mine.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually knew a Cecil Smith growing up. Who was black. He was my brother's best friend for going on 8 years before we moved cities.