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[ SECRET POST #3284 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3284 ⌋

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Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
By the way, it's understandable why you would think all Jews look a certain way considering how the media tends to portray us, but there is actually a lot of diversity! We are a disaporic people, and everywhere we've gone we've mixed with the local populations, which is why we come in every race. There are Jews all over the world, and no such thing as a single Jewish look. Because the truth is, we can potentially look like ANYONE.

I can actually use myself as an example here: I'm partly Ashkenazi (Eastern European Jewish) and partly Mizrahi (what some would call Arab Jews, though many Mizrahim don't like being called that). Aside from my dark, frizzy hair, there's nothing stereotypically Jewish-looking about me. I have pale skin and my nose isn't very big. My mother, on the other hand? She has a large nose and darker skin than most white people, and is regularly mistaken for an Arab. People who don't know our family also tend to assume that she's a Muslim, since the Muslim population where we live is much bigger than the Jewish population.

For further examples of Jewish diversity, I would encourage everyone to check out this blog:

http://whatjewslooklike.tumblr.com/

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Not every race. Israel has declared that it does not consider Ethiopian Jews to be Jewish and has actively tried to sterilize them. The current Israeli minister of Education has some very strict racial rules about Jewishness too, especially Arabic Jews which she considers a pollution of the Jewish race. Lovely people the Israelis, just don't talk to them about politics, bit backward in that regard.

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I don't know if what you're saying is true, and I highly doubt that it is. (Specifically, I doubt the part about Ethiopian Jews being declared "not real Jews" and the part about the Israeli minister education saying Mizrahim are a "pollution", not the part about the sterilizations. That, unfortunately, is true.)

However, regardless of what anyone's personal opinion on this matter is, Ethiopian Jews are no less Jewish than any other Jews. Mizrahim are not a "pollution" of the Jewish people any more than Jews in general are a "pollution" of humanity. That is to say, we are not a pollution at all.

I suspect you're a troll though, so whatever.

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, what? Israel hasn't tried to sterilize anyone, what are you on about.

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-admits-ethiopian-women-were-given-birth-control-shots.premium-1.496519

The above website is a reputable source for topics relating to Israel, since it is an Israeli newspaper.

Most anti-Israel propaganda is entirely false, but sadly, this is not.

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Pay-Walled.

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Trying to get your dollars, what a bunch of Jews.

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Oops, sorry about that.

Here's a copypaste.

Israel Admits Ethiopian Women Were Given Birth Control Shots

Health Ministry director general instructs all gynecologists in Israel's four health maintenance organizations not to inject women with long-acting contraceptive Depo-Provera if they do not understand ramifications of treatment.

A government official has for the first time acknowledged the practice of injecting women of Ethiopian origin with the long-acting contraceptive Depo-Provera.

Health Ministry Director General Prof. Roni Gamzu has instructed the four health maintenance organizations to stop the practice as a matter of course.

Gamzu’s letter instructs all gynecologists in the HMOs "not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment.”

He also instructed physicians to avail themselves of translators if need be.

Gamzu’s letter came in response to a letter from Sharona Eliahu-Chai of the Association of Civil Rights in Israel, representing several women’s rights and Ethiopian immigrants’ groups. The letter demanded the injections cease immediately and that an investigation be launched into the practice.

About six weeks ago, on an Educational Television program journalist Gal Gabbay revealed the results of interviews with 35 Ethiopian immigrants. The women’s testimony could help explain the almost 50-percent decline over the past 10 years in the birth rate of Israel’s Ethiopian community. According to the program, while the women were still in transit camps in Ethiopia they were sometimes intimidated or threatened into taking the injection. “They told us they are inoculations,” said one of the women interviewed. “They told us people who frequently give birth suffer. We took it every three months. We said we didn’t want to.”


...so I made a mistake when I said it was sterilization. It was actually a birth control drug, administered to Ethiopian women without their consent. Still bad, but not quite the same thing as permanent sterilization.

Here are some more articles on this, if you're interested:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/02/07/lets-get-the-facts-straight-about-ethiopian-jews-and-contraception/

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
Makes you wonder what else they are up to that they haven't been caught out on, doesn't it. If they were prepared to try and sterilize people and claim it was a grey area because it could theoretically be viewed as contraception and public health, then what else are they prepared to do? What have they not been caught on, and how brazen will they be when they are?

Re: Same anon as above, clarifying some things.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-01 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
(Same anon again, correcting a typo.)

I meant to say diasporic. "Disaporic" isn't a real word. :P