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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-26 06:01 am

[ SECRET POST #417 ]


⌈ Secret Post #417 ⌋

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Re: 21

[identity profile] kirarakim.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me perfectly clear I do not think it is wrong that you call her Duck. What I found fault with your secret is that you lose respect for others that call her Ahiru.


Also, you have to keep in mind that every single bit of written information in Tutu indicates that they're in a GERMAN FAIRY TALE, where people definitely are not named 'Ahiru'

But last time I checked Duck was not a German word. Some of the other names like Krahe and Mytho are taken from other languages. Ahiru however is not. I just choose to use the Japanese word for Duck instead of the English word. I think both can be right. Just like if there was a Russian dub that used the Russian word for duck that would be right too (I don't know if there is a Russian dub or not I was just giving an example).

And sorry if I came down hard on you. I just don't usually like secrets that start off as I lose respect for people.
Edited 2008-02-26 23:58 (UTC)

Re: 21

(Anonymous) 2008-02-27 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
(OP again) Ha, I'm not saying I would lose ALL RESPECT EVER ZOMG. I'd just probably sigh, and not read a fic. I'll admit that I really love that stupid stupid series, and I just want to see somebody get it in the same way I get it, fairy tale and all. How about this:

I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT SO MANY PEOPLE CALL HER AHIRU ): IT JUST LOSES ALL THE FAIRY TALE MYTHOS TO INSERT RANDOM JAPANESE!

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with added emoticon, to show I am not an unfeeling, soulless human being! I, too, can create faces with punctuation!

Re: 21

[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Although I agree with your sentiments, I do think your secret was worded almost trollishly...

Re: 21

(Anonymous) 2008-02-27 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
What can I say, getting comments makes me drunk with power. It's quite the headrush; you should try it some time.

Re: 21

[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I feel the same way, I pout when my secrets don't get comments. But I don't troll to get comments. ^^;

...I lose respect for people that troll for attention. I'd make that into an F!S secret for the lulz, but there's no point.

Re: 21

[identity profile] kirarakim.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
...I lose respect for people that troll for attention. I'd make that into an F!S secret for the lulz, but there's no point.

Ha Ha that is one of the few times that I would actually agree with an I Lose Respect secret. :P

Well this did start an interesting discussion. :D

Re: 21

(Anonymous) 2008-02-27 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
What can I say, my infant days in fandom were spent creating what basically amounted to a hugely efficient trolling organization for the fandom in question (which is so tiny that to mention it would give it away, oh well). Yeah, I was 12-13, but man it was fun. I honestly didn't expect to get so many comments over this secret, mostly because man does anybody take 'lose respect for' secrets seriously anymore? but the resulting lulz were too grand to pass up.

Re: 21

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'll admit that I really love that stupid stupid series, and I just want to see somebody get it in the same way I get it, fairy tale and all.

I get it. I get all the fairy tale mythos in the series. I still call her Ahiru. The people who call her Ahiru don't not GET IT and I think that's a brave (and baseless) assumption to make. I watched it fansubbed first. It stuck. It has nothing to do with it sounding more like a name. I don't mind the dub, I love the dub. However, why would I change what I'd called her for years? Before PT was dubbed, no one called her Duck. Everyone in fandom called her Ahiru. It's fine to prefer Duck for whatever reason. No problem. But to hold it against fans who use Ahiru is imho lame.

It's not random Japanese though. It isn't even like calling Ed "Edo" or Light "Raito," which I can more understand the griping with.

Wouldn't it make more sense if we were keeping things accurate to translate Ahiru into German?

I can't imagine you have many fics to read if you stop on that...
Edited 2008-02-27 00:16 (UTC)

Re: 21

[identity profile] kirarakim.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I get it. I get all the fairy tale mythos in the series. I still call her Ahiru. The people who call her Ahiru don't not GET IT and I think that's a brave (and baseless) assumption to make.

Yeah this is what I am trying to get across. I just choose the Japanese word for Duck because that is how I was introduced to the series. I think Ahiru and Duck are both right because they mean the same exact thing.

Re: 21

[identity profile] kirarakim.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't lose the fairy tale aspect for me because I understand Ahiru means duck, I just choose to stick with the Japanese word for her name. Simple as that!