Case (![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
case) wrote in ![[community profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/community.png)
fandomsecrets2008-02-26 06:01 am
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-02-26 06:01 am
[ SECRET POST #417 ]
⌈ Secret Post #417 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
1.
__________________________________________________
2.
__________________________________________________
3.
__________________________________________________
4.
__________________________________________________
5.
__________________________________________________
6.
__________________________________________________
7.
__________________________________________________
8.
__________________________________________________
9.
__________________________________________________
10.
__________________________________________________
11.
__________________________________________________
12.
__________________________________________________
13.
__________________________________________________
14.
__________________________________________________
15.
__________________________________________________
16.
__________________________________________________
17.
__________________________________________________
18.
__________________________________________________
19.
__________________________________________________
20.
__________________________________________________
21.
__________________________________________________
22.
__________________________________________________
23.
__________________________________________________
24.
__________________________________________________
25.
__________________________________________________
26.
__________________________________________________
27.
__________________________________________________
28.
__________________________________________________
29.
__________________________________________________
30.
__________________________________________________
31.
__________________________________________________
32.
__________________________________________________
33.
__________________________________________________
34.
__________________________________________________
35.
__________________________________________________
36.
__________________________________________________
37.
__________________________________________________
38.
__________________________________________________
39.
__________________________________________________
40.
__________________________________________________
41.
__________________________________________________
42.
__________________________________________________
43.
__________________________________________________
44.
__________________________________________________
45.
__________________________________________________
46.
__________________________________________________
47.
__________________________________________________
48.
__________________________________________________
49.
__________________________________________________
50.
__________________________________________________
51.
__________________________________________________
52.
__________________________________________________
53.
__________________________________________________
54.
__________________________________________________
55.
__________________________________________________
56.
__________________________________________________
57.
__________________________________________________
58.
__________________________________________________
59.
__________________________________________________
60.
__________________________________________________
61.
__________________________________________________
62.
__________________________________________________
63.
__________________________________________________
64.
__________________________________________________
65.
__________________________________________________
66.
__________________________________________________
67.
__________________________________________________
68.
__________________________________________________
69.
__________________________________________________
70.
__________________________________________________
71.
__________________________________________________
72.
__________________________________________________
73.
__________________________________________________
74.
__________________________________________________
75.
__________________________________________________
76.
Notes:
If you resubmit secrets, please mark them as resubmissions. Like add "this was too big last time" or something, or it might get shoved into the repeats. Kind of can't really remember 600+ unique secrets a week gdhtkjdfhf
Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 250 secrets from Secret Submission Post #060.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ] too big, [ 1 2 3 ] repeat, [ 1 ] posted twice, [ 1 ] etc, [ 1 ] ok take it to comments, [ 1 ] wtf.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: TAKE IT TO COMMENTS LOLWUT
Well, I never use fanart/cosplayart for anything, and I don't expect I ever will. As I said, I don't expect others to adhere to my view, but it's still my opinion.
The fact is that you do know that people get upset about it.
Yes, but this isn't a case of me justifying my use of fanart - I don't use it. I'm simply stating my opinion on use of fanart posted online.
If every piece of art ever created and put in the public sphere was allowed to be used in this way, no one would make any money at all, and images would just simply be a free-for-all.
I'm not talking about property as in claiming its ownership; just the general use in other works, like icons and such where official art is already used. In my opinion there is no difference between official and fanart here; it's not like I recognise every actor in the icons I've seen, or the official art for certain series.
(Honestly though, I think it's a bit creepy to use real people in one's icons.)
Why is that so difficult? How do you know that they will share your view on works in the public sphere? Isn't it a little strange to just assume things like that?
Again, I never use fanart for anything. Asking permission is not difficult (usually), I've just stated my opinions on why I don't think it should be necessary. I've never assumed how any fanartist would react, nor what views they have. I'm just giving my opinions of the situation.
Re: TAKE IT TO COMMENTS LOLWUT
I didn't mean to make it sound like I was attacking you directly. I used the word "you" as a generalization of sorts, meaning to challenge the view of anyone who would use your arguments as an excuse to actually go about making cosplay/fanart icons out of others' work without permission. It seems that there are people who think that way. I think asking for permission is necessary, but perhaps that's just my opinion as well, except I also think it's just more courteous and more common sense than anything else. If people don't want to do it, then they don't have to. It's just incredibly rude in my eyes to ignore the artist and do what one pleases' without considering their wishes.
I'm not talking about property as in claiming its ownership; just the general use in other works, like icons and such where official art is already used. In my opinion there is no difference between official and fanart here; it's not like I recognise every actor in the icons I've seen, or the official art for certain series.
That's what I mean, though. To me, there is a difference between the two forms of art. Fandom/the public obviously does not officially own commercial art, but we do have some claim over it due to the fact that it is commercial. To me it's almost part of marketing, similar to the way the doujinshi market is like promotion for official series. Copyrights and such protect the people and artists portrayed, whereas there is very little for fanartists to hold onto. (This is possibly why art theft is such a problem). Icons can't be used for much else other than in fandom, so they're not a threat to commercial entities in terms of copyright. Whether you really recognize the people or characters is not that much of an issue, whereas for a fanartist or a cosplayer it counts for everything, because it's pretty much the only recognition they will ever get.
Also, quite honestly, I don't find it creepy to use a real person in ones icon if its a) you yourself, or b) an official character. :/ not everyone uses drawings or landscapes in their icons. ._.'