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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-26 06:01 am

[ SECRET POST #417 ]


⌈ Secret Post #417 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: TAKE IT TO COMMENTS LOLWUT

[identity profile] gomimushi.livejournal.com 2008-02-28 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I never use fanart/cosplayart for anything, and I don't expect I ever will. As I said, I don't expect others to adhere to my view, but it's still my opinion.

I didn't mean to make it sound like I was attacking you directly. I used the word "you" as a generalization of sorts, meaning to challenge the view of anyone who would use your arguments as an excuse to actually go about making cosplay/fanart icons out of others' work without permission. It seems that there are people who think that way. I think asking for permission is necessary, but perhaps that's just my opinion as well, except I also think it's just more courteous and more common sense than anything else. If people don't want to do it, then they don't have to. It's just incredibly rude in my eyes to ignore the artist and do what one pleases' without considering their wishes.

I'm not talking about property as in claiming its ownership; just the general use in other works, like icons and such where official art is already used. In my opinion there is no difference between official and fanart here; it's not like I recognise every actor in the icons I've seen, or the official art for certain series.

That's what I mean, though. To me, there is a difference between the two forms of art. Fandom/the public obviously does not officially own commercial art, but we do have some claim over it due to the fact that it is commercial. To me it's almost part of marketing, similar to the way the doujinshi market is like promotion for official series. Copyrights and such protect the people and artists portrayed, whereas there is very little for fanartists to hold onto. (This is possibly why art theft is such a problem). Icons can't be used for much else other than in fandom, so they're not a threat to commercial entities in terms of copyright. Whether you really recognize the people or characters is not that much of an issue, whereas for a fanartist or a cosplayer it counts for everything, because it's pretty much the only recognition they will ever get.

Also, quite honestly, I don't find it creepy to use a real person in ones icon if its a) you yourself, or b) an official character. :/ not everyone uses drawings or landscapes in their icons. ._.'