[ SECRET POST #3292 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3292 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just redeeming villains or looking at them sympathetically. I'm seeing fans getting nasty toward people who write about or discuss villains at all. Like a certain subset of the MCU fandom which receives some really *vicious* harassment from other fans for finding the well written villains (played by good actors) in any way intriguing enough to write stories about them...doing what they do... which is being absolutely horrible people and attacking and torturing the heroes... and the authors of these fics are being called Nazi sympathizers for writing stories about the Nazi sympathizing characters canon gave us to use as villains. People are like “ewww, you know they're Nazis, right?” Like they think you didn't understand that, and if some concern troll just explained it, then you'd wake up and stop admiring Nazis and join them in their fluffy bunny world where no one ever contemplates why bad people do bad things. Of course, their central argument, their belief that you read and write this fic because you actually admire Nazis, is complete BS. The actors who play them onscreen aren't really Nazis, they're playing a role to make the story more interesting, writers who write the villains are doing the same thing.

Cap fought Nazis, if the Nazis were faceless mooks who were never any real threat, the story wouldn't be very interesting, would it. If the villain of a story ISN'T someone you find yourself wanting to know more about, then that's bad writing.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen MCU fandom in particular get pretty nasty about this - I'm thinking of Stand With Ward/Down With Ward, and the backlash against fans writing about HYDRA-affiliated characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking as a fan who agrees with OP, I do think there's a little more sensitivity required if you're working with nazi or nazi-affiliated characters because nazis were and are real and murdered millions of real people. My own family history has been messed up by nazis, and it's really uncomfortable when I see people with Red Skull merch or trying to argue that Hydra doesn't count because even though they have nazi history and still push a lot of nazi ideas, they don't label themselves that way anymore. I do think showing that nazis and nazi affiliated characters in fiction are people is important because real life nazis and nazi affiliated folks were people too. They would do things like be nice to their spouses and pet dogs and all that. They probably thought they were justified and protecting certain "vulnerable" groups in what they did. But ultimately the level of atrocity nazis commit both individually and ideologically en masse leaves a very specific stain IMO. I've seen real life former neo nazis voice regret for their past choices and make very thoughtful commentary about why what they did was horrible and what they need to do going forward. Those real former neo nazis are doing the right thing trying to be stellar going forward, but I would never trust them and they have no room for error anymore. I just wish them success in being better people.

So basically, while I don't exactly disagree I do think when you deal with stuff that has real life ties on as massive a scale as nazism that's really dangerous territory and an extra level of awareness is necessary.