[ SECRET POST #3296 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3296 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Pokemon/Harry Potter]


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03.
[Blue Submarine No. 6]


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04.
[Ronin Warriors/Yoroiden Samurai Troopers]


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05.
[Bucky Barnes]


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06.
[Stephen King's The Stand]


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07.
[Adam West/Batman]


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08.
[Haruchika]


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09.
(George R.R. Martin)


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10.
[Mortal Kombat]


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11.
[Carmen Sandiego]


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12.
[Brooklyn Nine Nine]


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13.
[Star Wars: The Force Awakens]













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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fingalsanteater]

I mean, I don't know about all the shippers since I'm not in the TFA fandom or the Reylo fandom, but I'm assuming they're seeing every villain/hero who opposes him dynamic ever? I mean, in the movie, Kylo Ren is a bit obsessed with her and he wants to teach her. Rey opposes him and she beats him at his own game. Their fates seem entertwined and so it's easy to write the usual villain/hero tropes like: enemies to allies/friends to lovers, redemption arcs, woobie villain saved by love interest, Kylo in leather pants, hate sex, etc. Plus, you've got the appeal of femdom and potential incest (if you are into that).

[(Anonymous)]

Except that he tortured her with forceful mind-reading that's literally described by the script and novelization as being excruciatingly painful and invasive (see also: Poe, who had the exact same thing done to him).

That's the abuse the antishippers are talking about. That time he explicitly DID abuse her.

I'm all for villain redemption and villain/hero hatesex shipping and all that, but I'm not so on board when literal actual torture happens.

[nanslice]

But no one's making you ship it, they just want to be able to ship it without getting shat on. Which doesn't seem unreasonable.

[fingalsanteater]

That's fine that you personally don't ship characters with that dynamic, but don't act like people shipping villain torturer/hero victim is anything new. It is one of the most common types of ships and people are acting like Rylo shippers are the scourge of the internet when this is completely normal shipping. And, even if it wasn't a normal ship dynamic, it doesn't matter. It's the amount of immature vitriol directed at shippers that gets me. I mean, there has always been ship wars and there will always be ship wars, and this is just the most current one. Doesn't mean it's still not annoying that we can't ship in peace without kinkshamers and shipshamers calling out people for being racist and shit.

[(Anonymous)]

but she canonically turns the mind link back on him? and finds out about his fears and obsessions? and he learns nothing from her?

he *tries* to torture her but she beats him, and if every 'uses the Force to extract information' counts as abuse, then logically she's abused him

which I think is dumb, but follows from your argument here

I'm not saying he treats her well, obviously he doesn't, but assuming that their interactions have to have the dynamic of Rey as his victim just because he tried *and failed* to hurt and exploit her is both totally restrictive and frankly not in line with their actual canon interactions

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah exactly, it's nothing new. I think because people on tumblr are ultra sensitive to anything they perceive as WRONG, they kinda act like attack dogs and go after it where as before people would just call you a freak, say you're wrong about the dynamic, etc. XD