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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-14 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3298 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3298 ⌋

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Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Sure you're allowed to, but when you know if you post said headcanon or make any reference to it dozens and dozens of people are going to come out of the woodwork to make sure you know you're wrong and they're right and also you are a terrible human being, it sucks the fun out of it.

There's a difference between "I saw Rey kissing Finn on the forehead as romantic." "Oh, well I saw it as motherly, what did you think felt romantic about it?"
and
"I saw Rey kissing Finn on the forehead as romantic." "Well :) I guess someone brainwashed by heteronormativity where women aren't allowed to exist except as some man's dick coozy would be unable to see it as anything but romantic :) but, have you considered... Rey is canonly a lesbian? :) And as a lesbian she's not going to kiss a dude romantically? :) Just something to think about! :)"
And then add in about twenty other rephrases and some "Anyone who ships Ray and Finn is gross and a misogynist don't you know that's abusive? You're sick"
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: Transcript by OP

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-01-15 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
What is so hard about deleting or blocking those people and going on about your day?

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
So you think the whole Zamii thing was entirely 100% her fault for not blocking those people and going about her day? Nice.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: Transcript by OP

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-01-15 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know who that is and I don't care. It's completely irrelevant.

If somebody is being a jerk to you about your fantasies regarding a fictional character, block that mother-fucker and get on with your life. Don't be a little bitch about it.

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
IIRC Zamii had a really strong hatebase that ran multiple troll accounts spamming up her ask box. So she'd block one, they'd make another, and the cycle would repeat.

Not saying people should commit suicide over bullying, but her case wasn't, well, normal.

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
*nayrt
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Re: Transcript by OP

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-01-15 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
So in other words it's nbd to be a jerk because it should be on the recipient of the jerky behavior to not...receive jerky behavior?
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: Transcript by OP

[personal profile] iceyred 2016-01-15 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's on the recipient of jerky behavior from the hate base to either ignore it, or turn off the fucking computer.

There will always be some asshole out there who hates what you're doing. It's on you to tell them to fuck off and go about your merry way. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

You don't have to care what others think. Especially not about fictional characters.

If someone acts like a dick, you don't have to listen to it. Block them. Turn off the computer. Go to another website, God knows there are thousands.

Where did this idea that people are helpless come from?

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Except it's not that easy? Have you ever had to?

Shit, I just watched it go down yesterday. A fic writer got an anon going "Don't you know these two adult characters have a mentor/student dynamic and so it's kind of gross to ship them?"
"Yup, I like that dynamic."

"Well you need to tag it child grooming because it triggered me."
"Nope! If you have a problem with that, don't look at my blog."

Let me reiterate. A consensual relationship between two adults who happen to have a mentor/student relationship. Next thing they know they're getting floods of anon hate, so they turn off anon. All the fandom tags have been spammed with the fact they're a child molester. Twitter fandom has been spammed. I'm not on instagram, but wouldn't be surprised if they were spamming that too. They're getting off-anon hate. Stuff of theirs is getting reblogged accusing them of being a child molester.

Now, how do you block that? How do you ignore that? How do you continue to participate in fandom when the only thing in fandom for you is people screaming that you're a child molester? That you can't post anything without it getting targeted. Your friends can't say anything or they get the same treatment.

All because you refused to give into one demand that you tag your consensual adult ship as CHILD-GROOMING for a random anon that claims to be upset by seeing it presented as ok.

The only thing you can do is give in to the bullying, or leave fandom.


Hell, I have someone stalk me for over a year because in a doll fandom I bought a brand of doll she didn't like. She waited, and got me booted off dA by fabricating all these screencaps of me harassing her and her followers. I barely even remembered her! I vaguely remembered the name and had to go searching back through old messages to see where she'd flamed me and I'd blocked her.

People are nuts.
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Re: Transcript by OP

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-01-17 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
So why does saying it should be the onus of assholes to stop being assholes equate to saying people are "helpless"?