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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-15 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3299 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3299 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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13. [WARNING for possible child abuse?]





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[personal profile] fscom 2016-01-15 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
13. [WARNING for possible child abuse?]
http://i.imgur.com/A235hKz.png

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
How so? I'd get if it's not hidden and minors can easily stumble upon it, but otherwise if it's between adults and only adults and entirely fiction, I don't see the problem.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm really sorry for you, but you can't blame shota/loli for it. They are just fiction, it's exactly like the videogames/violence bullshit.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-15 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Go die in a fire and gut your intestines, you pedo freak

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Suicide encouragement. You're the one who needs to kill themselves and make this world a better place.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not excusing ayrt's behavior, but let's not do that.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm anti shota/lolli myself, but spewing this kind of hatred at people is so not okay.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
It's definitely not my thing, but it bugs me a hell of a lot when people equate it to real child abuse/pedophilia. It really is just fiction.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
+1

And although fiction can be used to hurt people, it doesn't hurt people by just existing.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Can you elaborate on that? Maybe this is poorly worded, but I'm curious as to how "fiction can be used to hurt people."
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-16 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I once saw someone on Bad Roleplayers Suck claim their childhood friend's abuser showed them lolicon to convince them having sex with adults was normal.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be skeptical of anything I heard on the internet. I'd believe it if it were someone saying this with their name attached on a news site, not anonymously on LJ.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Shota/Loli being used to groom children is an argument that comes up a lot.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I hear the argument all the time, but I've never heard of it actually happening in real life (like show me a news link, man).

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Fiction or not, it's still gross as hell and I judge anyone who likes it.
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Also bc in my personal experience, everyone iv'e known who liked that kind of crap was a total creep in real life.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I figure people who are super open and pushy about their kinks regardless of context tend to be creeps irl. Even in fandom contexts, people are mum about their more hardcore kinks.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
This is my experience yeah. I definitely have a few kinks I don't air out to anyone and I'm 99% positive others do too but adhere to fandom etiquette and never talk about it. :V

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
People have all kinds of gross kinks though. What makes this different?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-01-16 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
If you're trying to say that shota/lolicon made you a pedophile I have some very bad news for you, OP.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, I get the impression that the OP was abused themselves by someone into shota/loli or knew someone who that happened to.

OP of #16 (suicide warning)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
The artist whose Tumblr I found the #16 image on grew up in a relatively harsh religious context. There was a point in their life when they attempted suicide because they thought they would inevitably be damned for the things in their head. They seriously considered hurting other people beforehand, because what would it matter if they were going to hell anyway?

In that post, they argued that what matters isn't the porn, it's the culture around the porn. They recognize that the things they draw aren't acceptable in real life, and they're around other people who also recognize that. For them, it's a coping mechanism to get these things out of their head. But they've seen other communities that normalize unacceptable behavior, and they think that can lead in dangerous directions. (They specifically referenced the creepshot community as creeping them out.)

Re: OP of #16 (suicide warning)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
yeah see, this is why I'm not as worried about pedo/incest stuff as I feel I should be. Like, I don't like it when it's overflowing into the mainstream fandom bc it's not my thing and I don't think it should since it is a relatively niche thing, but it does have a place, especially for those who've suffered abuse and work out their issues with it. Unfortunately, the former's also lead to that "Traumatized Enough" thing that reylo secret mentioned where total strangers grill you on your abuse history and that's not any good either.

Re: OP of #16 (suicide warning)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-17 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Are we talking about the creepshot community on Reddit?

I just think people need to have clear conceptions of consent, I mean, that's what it comes down to. Consenting adults drawing pictures and exchanging them =/= Adult taking picture of minor without consent, or even an adult taking a picture of another adult without consent.

Idk, I don't think it's that complicated a concept.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's used to groom children? So is just about everything else, including adult porn and the Bible (in fact, particularly the Bible).

I mean, personally I have no interest in shota/loli stuff and find it kind of gross when I run across it by accident, and it's illegal in my country, but I don't think it's evil in itself. Evil is what people do with it.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-16 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Let's not put words in OP's mouth here.

OP, why, specifically, do you feel you were wrong?