[ SECRET POST #3300 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3300 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: spoilers in this comment

[loracarol]

Honestly, I don't really like her for the same reason.

Plus, like, if she had really cared about the kids, couldn't she have stopped Asgore before Frisk showed up? We see in the TP ending that she can knock him out, so why did she wait until know?

I mean, I know why from a story-telling perspective, but from a character perspective I was wondering why she didn't even try until Frisk showed up, you know?

Re: spoilers in this comment

[(Anonymous)]

I always figured she's given up hope of a peaceful resolution with him and does not really want to fight anyone, so she tries to protect the children from a distance in the Ruins instead. But that keeps failing, and it only adds to her grief. It's only with the seventh human, where there is a very real chance Asgore will kill them and go start a war on the surface, that she makes herself confront him.

Neither of them really acts rationally after Chara and Asriel die. Asgore gets angry and wants to fight back, and then is trapped by that decision. Toriel is so unwilling to fight that rather than fighting to make Asgore stop, she abandons him and the Underground entirely. Keep in mind he was genuinely angry and wanted vengeance in the beginning, so Toriel trying to stop him by force would likely have been... a lot more violent than what we saw in the pacifist ending with a hopeless, guilt-ridden Asgore.

Re: spoilers in this comment

[loracarol]

I get that they were acting irrationally, and I do get what you're saying, but it still bugs me that she waited until the 7th child, you know? Like, even if she was worried about the violence, I don't think she's really on the moral high ground, you know? And the way that she acts at the end, I felt like she felt like she was on the moral high ground, and I just wanted someone to get annoyed about that (even though I will fully acknowledge that that would be a bad idea story wise.)

I have a lot of feelings about Toriel, and the morality of her actions tbh. |D