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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-23 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3307 ]


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fingalsanteater: (Default)

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2016-01-23 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
but when I consider the amount of time that goes into fic versus art for me, it seems like fanartists are the ones getting the shaft.

What do you mean by this? Because I spend hours and hours brainstorming an idea, reviewing canon for canon correctness and in character-ness of my characters, then writing the fic, editing the fic (and most my fics are just 5k and shorter) for, less than 100 kudos and maybe a few comments. I know that's truth for other writers as well.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-23 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It takes me half an hour to an hour to pump out 1,000 of words. One of my fics is only 1700 words long, and it has a little over 150 kudos and about a dozen comments. On Tumblr it has about 70 notes. I am a total seat-of-the-pants writer when it comes to fanfic and only do minimal editing.

By contrast even my most minimal/basic fanart takes at least 8 hours of work, and may get no comment-type feedback whatsoever. Proportionately, based on time-inputted, it does not get as much feedback.
fingalsanteater: (Default)

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2016-01-23 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but that's you...? It certainly takes me and plenty of other writers I know considerably more time to "pump" out 1k words for considerably less feedback. Your experience sounds atypical, to be honest, unless you are writing for a large fandom and a popular pairing.
blitzwing: (Default)

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-23 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but that's you...?

Yes? You wandered into a subthread based on my opinions and experiences, and asked me to elaborate on them?

It certainly takes me and plenty of other writers I know considerably more time to "pump" out 1k words for considerably less feedback.

I don't know about feedback amounts, but the writing speed isn't atypical. Most writers do about 1000 words in 30 minutes to 2 hours. There was a rather long FFA thread about it, and it's came up on Absolute Write and a few other forums.

unless you are writing for a large fandom and a popular pairing.

That ship in particular makes up 0.033 of the fics in the fandom, so it's not what I would call popular.
badass_tiger: Charles Dance as Lord Vetinari (Default)

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

[personal profile] badass_tiger 2016-01-23 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say that's pretty much just your experience though. I mean, you can't compare a 1k oneshot to a hand-painted picture anymore than you can compare a 100k epic to a scribble done in under an hour.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-23 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and sometimes a doodle will get 2,000 notes and a oneshot will languish with 10. There are a lot of factors at play beyond the medium/format.

I mean, you can't compare a 1k oneshot to a hand-painted picture anymore than you can compare a 100k epic to a scribble done in under an hour.

Can't you though? If you know that it took you 100 hours to write the epic, and it got 5 notes, then you can establish the feedback-to-time ratio for it and compare it to the doodle. If the doodle took an hour, but got 500 notes, then you have a massively disproportionate time-to-feedback ratio.

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Some of my most time consuming fanarts haven't gotten any notes so~
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-24 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've seen some really beautiful art out there that clearly took a lot of time and skill, and I'm like "10 notes?! that's ridiculous!". It makes me really sad to see super talented artists that don't get a lot of love.

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-23 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I draw and I can easy put out sketches in 20 minutes that'll get notes.

A piece properly composed, colored takes longer yeah, but compare the time that it takes for a longfic (multiple years). Fanart never takes that long.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

Re: How do you feel about fanartists?

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-23 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
but compare the time that it takes for a longfic (multiple years)

Depends on the writer. Some writers do multiple novels a year. Stephen King wrote The Running Man in a week.