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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-25 06:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #3309 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3309 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you misread the comment. Nami and Robin were written and presented as evil bitches right off, until they nearly got killed protecting the other protagonists. They were both introduced as villains at first. Same with Vivi.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Villainous? Perhaps. But morality is subjective as shit in One Piece given that everyone is a goddamn pirate and you have characters like Eustass Kid and Trafalgar Law crucifying people for shits and giggles and the other removing people's hearts just because he can and they're still painted as good guys or better than the real villains who do shit like enslave nations/poison kids/try to become god/black market weapons dealing/etc.

Even Marines can barely be called villains.

Nami I'll agree can be portrayed as a bitch, but Robin and Vivi never were. Vivi was an incompetent villain and Robin was just stoic. Not to mention Luffy had all their approval almost right off the bat and Luffy = moral goodness and all that jazz.

So agree to disagree.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I guess. My point is that the female characters had to prove they were trustworthy (to everyone except Luffy, who borders on Too Dumb to Live most of the time so I don't even trust his opinion even though I was supposed to), while the male characters never do.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I get where you're coming from (especially if you only watched up to before Skypia) but still, there's holes in it. Even if you exclude Luffy the other crew mates weren't trustful of each other

Zoro = first mate = grandfathered in so nobody had to content him being there
Sanji = I'll give you that one, outside of Zoro's intolerance of him
Usopp = had to get the shit kicked out of him by Luffy to rejoin after he quit
Chopper = He had to patch up Nami, Luffy, and Sanji and fight Warpol to get Nami and Sanji on board with him joining the crew
Franky = introduced as a villain
Brook = not trusted initially

and because he's showing no signs of fucking going anywhere I'll count him too
Law = distrustful as hell of him. Shichibukai and were constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop for him to sell out Luffy.

It does suck that Nami and Robin were introduced as such since that's a statistical 100%, 2 for 2, as opposed to 5 out of 7 but to say the male characters never do is incorrect.

Thank you for being so cool headed tho anon!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I quit the series right as Robin was introduced, so I don't even remember Franky or Brook and I have no idea who Law even is. I just got really annoyed that Robin was the third female character to be introduced that way (so it's really 3 for 3, even if Vivi was the worst villain ever; she was still introduced as one).

Usopp I'll have to disagree on. When he was first introduced, everybody seemed to trust him immediately, despite knowing that every other thing coming out of his mouth was horseshit.