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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-27 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3311 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3311 ⌋

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Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2016-01-27 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The Rocky Horror Picture Show was incredibly important to my self-discovery and coming out in my 20s. It was my first bi character on screen, and a show was the first time I wore a dress in public.

Performances were for everyone. Period.

I fear the revival will be a battleground for identity policing and ownership slapfights. You can't read a character as sharing your orientation without being accused of erasure these days.

... and that would be missing the entire fucking point.

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
You're probably not wrong. Yet another reason to stay far, far away from it.

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad for this transcript, lol. Reading it the way I was reading it, with the parts in the order I was reading them, I was very confused... got the overall point, but in a very broken way.

"battleground for identity policing and ownership slapfights"

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
what isn't these days?

Re: "battleground for identity policing and ownership slapfights"

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Build a community around people who don't do that shit (at least not in a toxic way) and you can live your dream

Re: "battleground for identity policing and ownership slapfights"

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Unless it's a closed community where people are vetted it's not gonna happen. It's pretty impossible to have both open or welcoming and free of identity policing now

Re: "battleground for identity policing and ownership slapfights"

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I'm not sure how true this is - I feel like most of the major Internet sites now give you a plethora of options to control your engagement and connections.

Re: "battleground for identity policing and ownership slapfights"

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I thought you meant a fan community, not your personal circle of friends?

You can do it with a personal circle easily. Not with a "fandom"

Re: "battleground for identity policing and ownership slapfights"

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
You can do it on Twitter or Tumblr as well, I think, if you're willing.
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Nah.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2016-01-28 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I mean think about it, a community of people who expressly don't want to discuss this sort of thing is...well it tends to be bigoted. I mean literally bigoted, not "oh nooo you used the wrong word twelve lashes in the justice dungeon."

Re: Nah.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I take your point but I don't think it necessarily has to be people who don't want to discuss this thing. I think it's more about how you approach the discourse than about your specific views - more a commitment to discussing it in a way that is, you know, nuanced and reasonable and open to difference. And it's been my experience out there that there are people who are not bigots but who are also reasonable and positive and committed to productive conversations.

I mean, I'd be very depressed if there weren't.
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Re: Nah.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2016-01-28 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oh of course! What I'm saying is that it'd be very difficult to build and maintain an online group like that. A friend group? Sure, and other people have said so. But a community like this might be hard to sustain when the morons start showing up.

Re: "battleground for identity policing and ownership slapfights"

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Amen.

I am so sick of every fucking thing being about identity.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
...oh fuck, you're right.

I'd just thought that a remake was pointless and stupid, but you're right, it's going to be worse than that.

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-01-28 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I somewhat agree with this. At least with the first part.

I'm not sure the second part will occur because I can't see the remake doing anything but tanking.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2016-01-28 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh it's going to be a complete and unmitigated suckfest. Jem and the Holograms Tier!
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-01-28 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
The criticism I've seen of Laverne Cox's casting has been relatively polite and hasn't insulted Cox. I consider that a good sign.

Hey, maybe someone can clear this up for me.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Laverne Cox only makes sense to me if she dresses in something that would be considered male attire, though that would probably change the aesthetic, which is a huge part of the whole thing. Unless they change the purport of Dr. Frank N. Furter a bit and the famous line to something like "a sweet transgender from Transvestite, Transylvania". I mean, wouldn't it make more sense for Dr. Frank N. Furter to be played by someone like Eddie Izzard or RuPaul (though there's difference between a drag queen and a transvestite) if they want to revive it.

Re: Hey, maybe someone can clear this up for me.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think Bianca del Rio would have been perfect for Frank. Eddie Izzard as well, but I think he'd be better as Dr Scott

(I really want to know what Tumblr thinks about RuPaul's Drag Race but I'm too scared to go look...)

Re: Hey, maybe someone can clear this up for me.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-28 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Some sane people enjoy it, some sane people don't care for it, and then there's the loudly vocal, batshit crazy "all drag is transphobic" contingent.