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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-29 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #3313 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3313 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Darren Criss]


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[Blind Spot]


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10. [SPOILERS for Undertale]





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12. [WARNING for incest, underage?]



(Free! Iwatobi Swim Club)


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[Jessica Jones, Star Wars, Faults, Dredd, Cucumber Quest]


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15. [WARNING for incest, bestiality]



[how to train your dragon/race to the edge]

























Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #473.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
morieris: http://iconography.dreamwidth.org/32982.html (Default)

[personal profile] morieris 2016-01-30 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Same...I will initially side with people who are trying to be inclusive before those people who act like everything is perfect.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-30 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing says "inclusive" like telling teenagers to go kill themselves, huh?
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[personal profile] morieris 2016-01-30 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't think I had to put 'before going deeper into the situation', but I guess I do.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-30 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should try not knee-jerk siding with anyone based solely on the fact that you share common beliefs. "Oh these people agree with me a lot, so I'll just side with them before I look deeper into it."
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[personal profile] morieris 2016-01-30 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because approaching a situation with someone going "can you not whitewash someone" and not being an asshole and another person going "ugh everyone is so sensitive what's wrong with sjw!", I want to side with the jackass.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-30 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
The entire secret is about the batshit side of the fandom that is willing to bully people into suicide over SJ issues. The nonny you replied to was talking about that side of the fandom in their dichotomy. "While that side [the SJW side that bullied Zamii] is fucked up and annoying, I think the anti-sjw part of the fandom is just as bad, if not worse."


The only appropriate response to that would be "both of them are really fucked up and awful" not "haha yeah I'm gonna side with the ones that got someone to attempt suicide tho cause they say they're for racial equality and I'm for that too!"

Maybe you misread their comment. Or maybe you're genuinely more sympathetic to one side of a group of awful people because they have the right claimed beliefs. You tell me.
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[personal profile] morieris 2016-01-30 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, calling them 'worse' is wrong. Telling anyone to kill themselves is wrong, because not only is it wrong, your point goes out the window as it should, people stop listening, and you're rightfully the bad guy in that situation.

But in a reasonable situation, people advocating for 'sane' SJ (because my idea of sane SJ is not the same as F!S, i've noticed), are going to get my support before the people who bait them, whitewash out of spite, blackface for their cosplay, ect. They may not keep all of it, but i'm never going to side with Anti-SJ(W) people.

My initial comment wasn't clear and that's my fault.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-30 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's cool. I apologize if I was rude about it.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Can you like chill out and quit jumping on people who disagree with you?
It's not that unresonable to side with social justice, and still not like and disagree with some members of the community.
Not everything is as black and white as you think.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
or change an opinion after going forward.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-30 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Can you like chill out and quit jumping on people who disagree with you?

I think encouraging teenagers to commit suicide is a bad thing. I don't think people should side with those who do that, simply because of shared beliefs. I think that's kinda fucked up. If that's "jumping on someone", well...so be it.
Edited 2016-01-30 01:07 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for ignoring literally the rest of my entire post genius.
You can side with social justice and not like or approve of what people are doing in said social justice circles. .

But lmao no you're right. I totally side with the bullies despite the fact that I openly defended Zamii multiple times and tried to get her hate blogs shut down. Noooope! I apparently side with the bullies now because I haven't rejected social justice and continue to stick to my
beliefs.

Lmao your logic is ridiculous. Youre proving my op right with every replay.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-30 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
"Thanks [...] genius."

It's always nice to know my work is appreciated.

"I totally side with the bullies"

Now where did I say that?
Edited 2016-01-30 01:25 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't think people should side with those who do that, simply because of shared beliefs."

This whole argument started because you assumed that me and mori had no promblem being on the bullies side just because we happen to still like and advocate for social justice; despite the fact that anybody with more then five brain cells can see that's not the case.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-30 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't think people should side with those who do that, simply because of shared beliefs."

I don't see how that's a claim that you side with bullies, nonny. But I'm sorry to have caused you such distress, regardless, if I somehow led you to think I believed such a terrible thing about you. Rest assured, I know a sweet nonny like you would never do such a thing ♥
Edited 2016-01-30 01:35 (UTC)
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2016-01-30 02:39 am (UTC)(link)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I know. A week or two ago I actually saw the anti-sjw fans defend the UK censoring scenes, and claim that homophobia wasn't "a big deal" and "England has a diffrent culture than the U.S. so it's not right for anyone to criticize it" and anybody who had a problem with it was entitled and whiny.
I mean say what you want about the more obnoxious "PC police" part of the fandom, but at least they were rightfully upset about it.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Hope you enjoy telling people to kill themselves, dearie!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not really sure why not liking anti-sjw automatically means I now condone bullying and sucide, but lmao okay.
People like you are litterally proving my point.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-30 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
The person ayrt is replying to already admitted their post [inadvertantly] read like they were siding with the suicide-encouragers...so you don't have a leg to stand on with your trolling.
Edited 2016-01-30 01:26 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, how am I trolling?
And lmao sorry I can't read every single post on this thread at every single
Moment it's published and updated. I have other things I'm preoccupied with in real life, unlike you apparently.