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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-30 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #3314 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3314 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah the Lammily creator seems like a creep.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Like a pathetic guy trying to cash in on feminism?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
The CEO of Mattel is also a guy. Your point?

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
DA There's a huge difference, to me at least, between people who own up to being business-oriented and those who pretend to not be to cash in.

Mattel - We want to sell a product, so we're trying to find out what appeals to people.

Lammily - Barbie sucks. I'd never fuck a woman like Barbie, she looks too... cold and uppity, kinda bitchy you know? I like down to earth girls, the girl next door, someone who's not too vain and full of herself. Plus, uh, representation! Promoting healthy body image! Feminism! She's a Womyn! I'm such a good male feminist, give me money.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never seen anything to suggest the creator of Lammily wasn't out to make money, so I have no idea what alternate reality you seemed to have stumbled into. I just think it's silly to say that he's not allowed to make money off feminism, but Mattel is.
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[personal profile] annethecatdetective 2016-01-31 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I got major creep vibes from him. Like, in interviews, he basically said he thought Barbie was 'cold' (did she put him in the 'friendzone'???) and he designed a doll he would date. Which was like... I don't know, the way it was phrased was so off-putting to me, like 'here is an average girl I'd bang, you can dress her in some uninspired clothes I guess and let's say, um... slap some acne/scar/stretch mark stickers on her so I can market this as being good for self-esteem', it didn't come off like he knew or cared about the doll world or child development.

And the prices are outrageous for how BAD the clothes are, which, like... It fails as a fashion doll right there.


That's the problem with a lot of small/independent companies launching any kind of fashion doll who doesn't fit the same scale as dolls already on the market, but at least most of those don't sound like total creeps when they attempt to do something different and eventually fail. But Mattel-- and the Barbie name, in particular-- is big enough, and with a mixed consumer base of kids and adult collectors, that they're able to launch new body types that will have a wide array of fashions, and while they won't be able to trade all their clothes with classic Barbie, they'll be able to share clothes with others who have the same body, and they'll be able to use the same accessories and props/furniture/houses, and it's still a risky move, but it's one that isn't doomed from the start, and I hope it pays off and that they get some shelf space in stores after a successful online launch.

(they don't look any less articulated than most Barbies to me-- her arms are straight instead of bent, but very few Barbies have fully articulated elbows. Even the ones that have that soft bendable knee, the articulation is only so-so. Aside from a few special ones, they're mainly jointed at the hips and shoulders and beyond that they might have a little flexibility, but I remember the days before they even had that. Play line fashion dolls in general aren't made to be extremely articulated-- which makes those that are stand out, I know MH girls are incredibly articulated, though they aren't regular fashion doll-scale as far as their bodies go and what clothes they wear. High end fashion dolls are sometimes very articulated, but not always. And then you have dolls that aren't considered 'fashion dolls' that are designed to be very articulated and poseable...)