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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-03 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #3318 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3318 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm all for fat acceptance but I hate the type of argument going "the story has dragons and airships so what's stopping fat people from being ballerinas or marathon runners?????"

No matter how outrageous your fantasy or sci-fi universe, humans will generally be humans with human limitations because they're the fucking point of reference. You can't create an immersive fantasy world without grounding it on some level of realism and familiarity. No, fat people won't be in amazing shape, children won't be sexually mature, dogs won't be rocket scientists, unless there's a specific context to make those things plausible!

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if there's a story out there about a rocket scientist dog...

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Mr.Peabody, but him being a genius dog is the entire premise so there's that.

If you encountered a rocket scientist dog in the Avengers you'd expect there to be a pretty solid in-universe explanation for it instead of some overzealous SJW going "dogs need more positive representation and you're dogphobic for questioning any of this".
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[personal profile] iceyred 2016-02-04 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Ein is a smart pooch, but he's hampered by his lack of opposable thumbs and inability to speak human.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Except there's lots of people much, much fatter than shown there that are in amazing shape? That run marathons and do ballet and all sorts of intense physical activity that my scrawny ass wouldn't last two seconds in?

Fat and muscle are two different things, and they can coexist just fine. Where did this weird idea come from that you can either have fat or muscle but not both?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Fat people doing marathons or ballet is heavily discouraged for legitimate medical reasons??? Just because it's possible in theory doesn't mean it's not a stupid fucking idea. I wouldn't have a skinny person portray a sumo wrestler or a strongman either. It goes both ways.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Is it? I had no idea. Yeah, there's operating limits on a human body and your joints might not thank you, but there's a fat ballerina troupe in ... I want to say Russia. And one of my coworkers runs marathons and is a big fat guy. Not so fat he's immobilized, but, like, obese. And people of all shapes and sizes do inadvisable shit all the time. Dunno why fat people exercising is such an awful idea. Dance and running are great exercise.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
da

From personal experience with my relatives, it will wreck your joints eventually. The human body is simply not designed to carry that kind of weight around and your joints will quite literally wear out. It happened to my aunt and she had to have both knees replaced in her 50s.

Exercise is good if you're obese, high-impact exercise is not. There's a reason doctors recommend things like walking and weight-lifting to obese patients.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Doing marathons or ballet isn't terribly healthy for most humans of any body shape. High-impact sports in general tend to destroy your body over time, because humans aren't actually designed to go that hard for that long.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
There ARE fat ballerinas and marathon runners. Literally just google it.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hell I know there are paraplegic mountain climbers out there but that doesn't mean I'm morally obligated to acknowledge those people every time I write a story with a mountain climber in it.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
SO MUCH THIS.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Not obligated, but the thread starts with "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE AND COULD NEVER HAPPEN! A sprinter with two prosthetic legs is as unrealistic as a rocket scientist dog! It would never, EVER happen in THE REAL WORLD!" And so people are rightly pointing out that, uh, well, there was Oscar Pistorius and all.

You don't have to write about people with prosthetic legs running, but don't say it's unrealistic.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-04 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but let's face it, they are not particularly impressive ballerinas or fast marathon runners.