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⌈ Secret Post #3319 ⌋

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[Manhunter, Criminal Minds, CSI and X-Files]

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Yes.

You would be incredibly surprised by the number of people who honestly didn't understand importing large numbers uneducated, group of predominately males from religiously and culturally regressive countries wasn't going to have any effect whatsoever.

Like fair enough the people who considered the trade off worth it for saving the refugees or whatever, but there are people who literally thought the latter criticism was just racism.

it's too bad there's no organized body in the state paid to maintain law and order

i guess they must be incompetent or something

Overworked, underfunded, and by virtue of the role predominantly reactive.

And I mean you understand that no country has a police force so effective that it can just magic away any possible issues with the complexities mentioned.

You'll never magic away the issues, no, of course not. The point is where the cost-benefit tradeoff is, comparing the social effects and cost on the one hand to the moral imperative to address a humanitarian crisis on the other.

I agree that it's overworked and underfunded, and that to me is one of the massive root causes of the issue here, and I wish it were addressed more, instead of saying that it's just political correctness.

And to be clear what Germany and Sweden are doing is one of the least effective ways to do it. Huge social cost which is going to have tremendous impact down the line, taking on a large number of economic migrants, encouraging human trafficking and attempts to cross the water, whilst stoking what is going be serious right wing backlash.

For all the criticism you can make, the UK spends more money in aid in the Syrian refugee camps, and taking refugees directly from there then any other country.

Maybe they were hoping the immigrants would behave because they're in the country that "saved" them. I mean, it's pretty stupid to take up another country's offer of protection and then attack the citizens of that country, it's like biting the hand that feeds you.

I just commented in another thread about how strange it is that opposition to bringing in refugees keeps coinciding with the statement that the refugees are majority male. (Adult males are only 23% of the refugee population.)

I don't know where you're getting your stats from or where they apply to, but

http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

57% adult males.

And keep in mind this is including the fact that there are huge incentives for men to lie and say they're children, and often very few ways to confirm.

I assumed we were talking about the Syrian refugees: http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

What you're quoted is explicitly in the refugee camps and registered as refugees, as opposed to seeking refuge in Europe which is what people are referring to (and was in my link - unless you think the breakdown is going to differ in any meaningful way if we're just looking at Syrian refugees, the largest by bar group listed).

Hmm, this is interesting . . . The currently statistic for arrivals is 57% male. Politifact made an entry about it on January 14th, linking to the same page you linked, and at that time, it was 49% male. (This was part of why Politifact described the refugees as "majority women and children," the other part being the refugee camp statistic I linked.) I doubt the demographics changed that much in such a short time, so what changed in how they were measured?

Just guessing, but the entry made on January 14th may be old stat, or at least not include January. In January alone 65 000+ people arrived. If the majority of those are male that is going to change the statistics.

This figure includes 2.1 million Syrians registered by UNHCR in Egypt, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon, 1.9 million Syrians registered by the Government of Turkey, as well as more than 26,700 Syrian refugees registered in North Africa.
Regional demographic breakdown below is based on available data from Egypt, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon.

Considering that the majority of the refugees in these stats aren't even in Europe (I don't know whether Turkey is considered European or Asian in this context though) they are quite irrelevant when it comes to the crisis in Europe.

*tips fedora*

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