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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-05 07:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #3320 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3320 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Rick and Morty)


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03. http://i.imgur.com/u0ymbUk.gifv
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[Steven Universe]


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[Hanna Barbera Comics Reboot]


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[The Flash]


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[Renaud]


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[The Shannara Chronicles]


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11. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]





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12. [WARNING for incest / underage]






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13. [WARNING for rape]



[Okane Ga Nai]


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14. [WARNING for rape]



[Hockey RPF]


















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(Anonymous) 2016-02-06 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
I don't fully disagree, but I would say one argument that could be made is - Shylock did not hold a position of power over Antonio. He lent him money, yeah, but the pound of flesh deal was just that: a deal. It wasn't forced on Antonio, nor was he tricked. He agreed to it cause he didn't want to pay interest, and Shylock explicitly made the offer because Antonio has mistreated him. (Like he says that to Antonio when he's making the sales pitch.) Shylock is in such a power imbalance that even when he should win that deal because Antonio couldn't pay, he doesn't.

On the other hand, Ratched systematically abuses her patients long before McMurphy shows up. She is in a literal position of power over them. And not only that, she wins in the end. She lobotomizes McMurphy. Shylock doesn't win, he loses everything. I do think the text against Ratched is very sexist and McMurphy is terrible, but I don't think your conclusion of what happens to both Ratched and Shylock "in the end" isn't a fair representation.

Overall, it's an alright comparison, but not a great one? idk I'd read an english paper about this though

(Anonymous) 2016-02-06 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Ratched pretty much loses most of her power because of what McMurphy did to her, though.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-06 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
She still lobotomizes him, idk if that's losing her power? And the system of power that allowed the medical abuse of the mentally ill still exists. I just don't think its a fair comparison cause Shylock never had power and honestly never gains any.

Maybe Tamora from Titus Andronicus, or even Medea would be better literary comparisons.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-06 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
It might be more clearer in the book, but after the attack the other patients are no longer afraid of her. She's fearful, has trouble speaking and has to write things on paper, and most of the patients either leave or transfer to another ward.

http://www.ipad-ebooks-online.com/26/Text/ch29.html

(Anonymous) 2016-02-06 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read the book since high school admittedly, but my point saying I don't think Shylock is a good comparison still stands. Shylock doesn't fall from power. He never has it. Even as a money lender, someone vital to the Venetian economy, he is not respected, he's spit upon, he's abused, lives in a ghetto: he's given a whole speech about it.

I'm not saying Ratched is not a character steeped in authorial sexism, I'm just saying Shylock is not the best comparison. The power structures are just too different.