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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-12 07:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3327 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3327 ⌋

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[Love Live - sorry anon who wanted it Saturday, trying to keep the warning ones on Friday]


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[personal profile] fscom 2016-02-13 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
05. [SPOILERS for Downton Abbey]
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(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen lots of people talking about how obnoxious she is. Maybe part of the problem is that so many of them frame it the way you do - "No one but me talks about this!!!" - which isn't really conducive to discussion.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Look, Mary's awful, but at least she admits it. Edith has done as much awful shit as Mary has but she (and her fans) act like she's the greatest and most innocent who is so sinned against.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
This. Taking Marigold away from her adoptive parents is so much worse than the things Mary did. Jesus, every time I think about that poor woman and her husband.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
Nah.

Mrs. Drewe was obsessed with the kid. Remember that weird incident where she was sure Edith had run off with her? And they were right there, in the yard. Remember ripping up the birth certificate? Come on lady, face facts. She isn't yours. Let's not even go into how disturbing it was when she kidnapped her.

Ultimately it all comes down to, as Mr. Drewe said, "we forgot to take feelings into account" (or whatever he said). On both Edith's and Mrs. Drewe's parts. In the end Marigold is with her mother, which is as it should be.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was lazy of Fellowes not to explore what would have happened in the immediate aftermath of Edith taking Marigold away from the Drewes, especially since she has no clue how to look after a child. What does Marigold eat? What are her sleeping habits? What happens when she wets herself? The kid should have been screaming for her mother (Mrs Drewe) within minutes, but Fellowes just glossed over it completely.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
>She isn't yours.
Except she was, Mrs. Drewe had raised her, Marigold was her daughter. I wish you stop pretending that adoptive parents aren't real parents just to justify Edith stealing Marigold, adoptive parents love their children as much as any biological parent.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
She didn't admit it until Tom shoved it in her face.

What has Edith done? Yeah, she wrote that letter to the Turkish Embassy, but that was in season one, and Mary ruined her relationship with Strallan over it. Yet after that Mary took every chance she could to tear Edith down and make snide, nasty comments, and the show expects us to praise her for it?!

To quote TV Tropes:

"Creator's Pet: Mary flirts with it throughout the show, but she definitely qualifies in Series 5, where Fellowes seems absolutely convinced that her constantly making random and utterly unprovoked insults towards Edith will just make people love her more. Plus, the horse race where she goes sidesaddle that looks for all the world like a setup for a horrible accident, but no, she somehow wins because she's just that perfect in every way. (Not to mention how she is rude and unfriendly towards most of the men she meets and they still end up falling madly in love with her.)
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[personal profile] iceyred 2016-02-13 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Edith's no saint, but Mary was such a hateful bitch.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, at least she never gave her kid to another family, let them love said child like their daughter, then decide to take it back again, eventually forcing the family off the land they'd farmed for centuries because the foster mother is devastated and God forbid Edith just move into the damn London flat she's been dithering about for years.

Okay, there's no real parallel between the sisters on this issue, but I was so bloody sick and tired of Edith's drama by the final season.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
There is so much irrational hatred toward Edith because of Mrs. Drewe--it's immensely frustrating because it just seems so manifest that they overidentify with the foster mother, that they cling to some notion that all mothers are the same. No, they're not--not in this case. Marigold IS better off with Edith, who is both her actual mother and better able to take care of her. I'm so sick of this idea that if you foster a child for a few months you're magically the same as the birth mother who made a mistake giving her up and is trying to rectify that. Mrs. Drewe's pain is just not comparable to Edith's--especially since she has many more children!

But in the end, all 3 of them--the Drewes and Edith--messed up but with good intentions. Mr. Drewe was trying to help but was too secretive with his wife, Edith was trying to find a solution but couldn't stay away from her daughter, Mrs. Drewe tried to raise Marigold but got weirdly attached. They're all multi-faceted characters. (And no one forced the Drewes off, Mrs. Drewe seriously fucked up there.)

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
I was honestly sympathetic towards Edith for most of the situation, but once she took back Marigold it was discussed several times that Mrs Drewe found it painful to see the child in sight but out of reach and that a clean break was needed.

In which case it was Edith's responsibility to go somewhere else - like say, the luxury flat that was waiting for her in London. Instead it's the Drewes that get uprooted after fighting so hard to keep the farm in the first place. Sorry, but getting kicked out of their home is entirely on Edith.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
So she shouldn't mind losing one of her children because she has more? You sound like a sociopath.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
You clearly haven't watched this show with my family then. All of them hate her. (I don't care for her myself, though she has her moments.)

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
She's my favorite character

I don't watch the show though, she's just really fucking pretty

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
But the whole show is like this - there's obvious creator's pets (Mary, Bates, Lord Grantham, the entire upper class, servants who are very very humble) - and it's super-bizarre to watch.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-13 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
In the last couple of episodes Mary got called on her behaviour repeatedly. Which was about time. She needed to be.