[ SECRET POST #3330 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3330 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Uchuu Kyoudai (Space Brothers)]


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[Roald Dahl]


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[X-Files, "Mulder and Scully Meet the Were-Monster"]


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[Agnus Dei/Les Innocentes]


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[Whitechapel, DC Emerson Kent]


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[Undertale]


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(Tales from the Borderlands)


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[Steven Universe]


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Comments

[fscom]

11. http://i.imgur.com/Luv4gcn.jpg

Transcript by OP

[fscom]

I don’t know which fans annoy me more: 1) the fedora-wearing “self-enlightened” bros who haven’t read past “God is dead” and some choice antifeminist quotes
2) the ones who have studied him and act like that puts them in some elite category of super-fans
Spoiler alert: Zarathustra would laugh at all of you. Forge your own path to the Übermensch!
s!b lol nerd

[(Anonymous)]

The Ubermensch is actual the uberfrau, and these pathetic fucks will never even know.

[(Anonymous)]

OP: She makes the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Because she CONSTANTLY REMINDS YOU OF YOUR OWN INADEQUACY, FRITZ.

[sabotabby]

I like this secret.

[dethtoll]

Fuck Nietzsche.

[(Anonymous)]

Knowing you, this is 100% a reaction against Nietzsche as interpreted by the people in group (1) in the secret, but knowing you there's also no way of convincing you of this, and you're just going to grind in your heels and insist that everyone who has any remotely positive feeling about Nietzsche is a member of group (1), so whatever.

[herpymcderp]

I feel like this is some bro I should know of, but I'm not up to date on my knowledge of what old timey philosophers(?) looked like.

Someone help me out here?

[(Anonymous)]

Nietzsche. Highly influential philosopher, his ideas tend to be interpreted as encouraging a radical individualism where the person strives to define their own moral code without regard for the larger opinions of society. Bit of an oversimplification but I'm assuming that oversimplification is what annoys OP.

[(Anonymous)]

Friedrich Nietzsche, the noted German philologist, critic, and proto-existentialist thinker.

[(Anonymous)]

I do think there's a lot of interesting stuff in Nietzsche but I have to say that the whole ubermensch concept (and broadly the whole Zarathustra... thing) is really not at the top of my list there.

[(Anonymous)]

Slightly OT, but I've actually wanted to read Nietzsche for some time...but I find the idea kind of intimidating. Any books/essays you guys think I should start with?

[(Anonymous)]

"Beyond Good and Evil" or "Genealogy of Morality" are probably the usual starting points. You could also try "The Gay Science" although it's more aphoristic.

[herpymcderp]

Be prepared for a lot of seven dollar words interspersed with really whiny childish pouting about.... like, everything.

I found it pretty hilarious, personally.

[(Anonymous)]

OP: Read Zarathustra. Well, readThe Parable of the Madman (http://www.historyguide.org/europe/madman.html) first (it's from The Gay Science). Then read Zarathustra. It's especially rewarding if you have some biblical literacy -- he called it his "good news" and "the fifth gospel." It's poetry as much as philosophy!

:shrug:

[(Anonymous)]

Friedrich Nietzsche's writing is pretty dense going.

I like some of the quotes, but I don't feel like hacking through that jungle.

Re: :shrug:

[(Anonymous)]

OP
You should stick to his aphorisms! I think Nietzsche would have been a total tweetmeister had he lived in the 21st century.

[thezmage]

Nietzsche had issues, there's no arguing that. And so much of his work has been filtered through nazi propaganda that it's hard to find something to like about it.

But his concept of "the slave revolt of morals" is one of the cornerstones of my life philosophy and, while I don't agree with many of the conclusions he drew from that concept, it's still a good concept. At least as I (mis?)understand it: people have a tendency to turn their own helplessness and frustration about their situation into a viewpoint in which their pain is an asset instead of an implication.

I don't think he's said anything else that I really agree with, but I only kinda skimmed part of one book for a philosophy class. Still, it made an impression on me.

[feotakahari]

I understood it as "people who are weak and made to suffer will create moral systems that say it's wrong to make them suffer. Strong people should ignore this because weak people don't have the power to make them stop."

(I'm looking forward to being told how I completely misinterpreted that . . .)

Can we laugh back at Zarathustra?

[feotakahari]

I can't stand people who try to work evolution into philosophy without actually understanding how evolution works.

Re: Can we laugh back at Zarathustra?

[(Anonymous)]

Nietzsche wrote Thus Spoke Zarathustra in the late 1800s . No one at the time understood how evolution worked - there was a lot of debate over how it operated, and natural selection was actually a frequently derided concept even amongst actual scientists well into the first few decades of the 20th Century, when the study of genetics really began to take off.

I find a lot of the man's philosophy eyeroll-worthy, but his understanding of evolution was actually pretty in tune with the prevailing theories at the time of his writing.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, a Nietzsche secret, nice :D

I just like reading his stuff, because its interesting. And I laugh about everyone who takes him too seriously and acts like his words are some sort of codex to live by. Though his haters are just as annoying. In some themes of his writings he changed his views once he got older. I mean it makes sense, people change with the experience they make in their life. And his live was very eventful, so I find it helpful to remember at which point in his live he wrote what book.

And I'm still laughing at people who follow his writings blindly. It's supposed to make you think, disagreeing with some of his stuff included. I think being the kind of philosopher he was, he wouldn't have wanted people to follow him, he would have wanted to discuss his writings with people, talk about it.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel much the same as you OP, but about Ayn Rand. I disagree with a lot of what she had to say and I think objectivism sounds pretty abhorrent, but goddamn. What's worse with her, though, is that the "enlightened" ones are just as bad about misrepresenting her views as the fedora-wearing tea party jackasses.

Protip: Rand did not actually believe that objectivism would work in the real world. She was actually pretty clear about the irl need for social programs, minority protections, and govt intervention. Atlas Shrugged was not a user manual, it was a thought exercise about an idealized world featuring idealized people.

And as bigoted as she was, she very publicly supported many progressive reforms like the abolition of anti-sodomy laws, which is damn near universally ignored b/c conservatives latched onto "bootstraps" rather than "personal freedom".

[(Anonymous)]

Can we stop with the whole fedora shaming? Last I checked, judging people for what they wear is bad. It's a hat, nothing else.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

All I know about Nietzsche is that the quote "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." was used in Baldur's Gate, with half used in the opening of BG1 and the other half in BG2.