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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-16 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3331 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3331 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-16 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Pfft, sounds like nostalgia bias talking.

The past ten years has brought some awesome anime, but either you're judging it at more critical standards than you did in the 90s, or you're just not actually giving it a try.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-16 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Nostalgia goggles are strong in the secret. Some of the anime in that pic aren't even great, like Sailor Moon. Doremi or Sakura are better magical girls shows.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
lol right? Sailor Moon might be significant to the genre, but it's really not a "good" anime, even in the magical girl genre. It's very aged, and very... well, 90s. There's newer stuff I've liked loads better, and I was obsessed with SM as a kid.

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
My nostalgia goggles are hardly strong. All of the series I've included have been truly inventive, influential, and largely extraordinary pieces of animation. I specifically included the Sailor Moon R movie because of the great direction by Kunihiko Ikuhara (he cemented his career here), the superb animation (the movie was made in 1993), and the fact that it was the first anime movie with a mostly all-girl cast to be released in theaters in Japan. The staff working on the animation took a gamble to release it in the theaters and it paid of because it did really well.

I see that some people are butthurt in the comments. Yes, there are a few good newer anime here and there, but the anime industry as a whole is producing less quality and more generic works. ALso catering to otaku has become endemic in the industry. I say this as a fan of Mushishi and Michiko to Hatchin

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
what

This is 100% nostalgia speaking. Catering to Otaku? When has anime ever not tried to target a certain audience? You think the 90s, they did not target certain audiences?

I seriously doubt you watch enough new anime to really claim they are all more generic and generally worse than stuff produced twenty years ago.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
OP again

Name new anime now that are as influential and inventive as the ones I listed in my secret. Stating that anime nowadays is largely catered to otaku isn't controversial. Otaku make up a prominent number of anime viewers in Japan and spend a lot of money on merchandise. Hayao Miyazaki even stated that the current anime industry itself is full of otaku.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Madoka, Mononoke, Gankutsuou. Yuasa, Kunio Kato and Koji Yamamura's anime. Ufotable is always great at using filters and coloring to create visually stunning anime.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
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Wait a few years. Most stuff doesn't become influential as soon as it's broadcast and it's impossible to know what will be influential by just looking current trends*.

*Not that you seem to doing that. You just want to complain about otakus, don't you?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Um, no. I'm pretty sure the anime industry is producing diamonds and dirt at the same rate it always has, it's just that now we're getting all of it instead of the cherry picked diamonds.

I don't especially like sifting and researching for anime I'll like, but it's mostly free and a helluva lot better than going to the anime DVD section in Best Buy and reading the blurb on the back before dropping $30 on four episodes I HOPE I'll like.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
All industries produce generic works to pander the audience considered the majority (or at leas the most likely to pay for their stuff), so?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-17 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
This. I love Sailor Moon to pieces but I would never call it a "great" anime. It was good for what it was and because it had such a huge influence on the magical girl genre, but I would rank stuff like Utena and Princess Tutu objectively higher on the "good" scale.
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[personal profile] bio_obscura 2016-02-17 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
What are some more recent series that you like?

(I ask as if I don't already have a mountain of shows on my to-watch list.)