[ SECRET POST #3332 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3332 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
(David Bowie)


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03.
(Great British Bake Off for Sports Relief, Ed Balls)


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04.
[Pokemon]


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05.
[Star Wars: TFA]


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06.
[Damian Lewis, Dick Winters, Band Of Brothers]


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07.
[Daughter of the Lilies]


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08.
[David Eddings]


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09.
[Sengoku Basara]


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10.
[JJBA]


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11.
[Men In Black I, II, III]
















Notes:

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The thing that bothered me most about the female characters (especially Polgara who wanted to be a housewife and make her own soap wtf) was finding out years later that the whole series was co-written by Leigh Eddings, David's wife. What the hell?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, the series began in the early 80s, and for that era, Polgara was what passed as a strong female character. Most of his female characters would've been considered "strong female characters" really, because they weren't simpering, weepy damsels. Hey, Ce'Nedra even gets dressed up in armor and asks for a breastplate with big titties on it because hers aren't big enough. That's feisty!

[(Anonymous)]

David and Leigh Eddings were also getting on in years when they started, so older assumptions probably came through (I get a bit of a Screwball Comedy vibe from some of the dialogue).

Never bothered me, but I'm usually too lazy to care much about these things.

[(Anonymous)]

That surprised me too. Regardless of whether or not you consider the series to be good, it was a best selling series. Why didn't she get credit for the co-authorship?

[(Anonymous)]

She did in the later books. Not sure why she didn't earlier. If I had to guess, it might be for the same reason that JK Rowling used JK instead of Joanne.

[blitzwing]

(especially Polgara who wanted to be a housewife and make her own soap wtf)

What's weird about wanting to make your own soap?

[(Anonymous)]

IIRC, the soap thing was more that she wanted to make soap with her own hands rather than use her magic to transmute soap from something else. It was equal parts not using magic as a shortcut, and the satisfaction of doing it herself. It was not presented as "MUST HOUSEWIFE AND SOAP."

[blitzwing]

That's cool. I've seen How to Make Your Own Soap/Candles classes at my local crafts fair before so I that was a pretty common (if niche) desire. I didn't factor in that it might be a magical thing in that world.

[(Anonymous)]

To be honest, I thought that was kind of dumb. Making soap was a highly unpleasant, even dangerous task in a time like that since it involved lye, which is very caustic. I could see wanting the satisfaction of making something with your own hands, but soap? Ugh.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Making soap is difficult and dangerous, even in modern times. I have no idea why someone with magic would be interested in doing it and I like to pretend that she actually did the lye and fat parts with magic and then did the fun bits (scenting and colouring) by hand. It's one of those things that people who have never done it think is a cute, rustic hobby.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. When people nowadays think about soap making, what they're really imagining is melting glycerin and mixing in perfumes or something like that. They're NOT picturing the process as it would've happened in ye olde fake medieval times, i.e. saving up animal fat and rainwater and processing wood ash until you can get lye, which takes hours. They're not imagining how lye can burn your skin and eyes if you're not careful, or how badly it stinks.

[killaurey]

I actually thought that Polgara's wanting to be a housewife made sense for her? She spent SO, SO long helping other people raise families and never got to have one of her own, so finally, when she got to, she was so happy. It's not a dream I would have for myself, but I honestly liked that Polgara was so happy with what she'd dreamed of, making soap and doing dishes and gardening and all.

[(Anonymous)]

The raising a family part? No problem. The do all the drudgery by hand part? That's a problem. Why do all of that if you want to spend time with your kids and husband? If she'd been all "magic will take care of the gross and boring parts, I can spend time with the kids and in the garden with Durnik," I would have been vaguely bored by okay with that. But no.

And Leigh Eddings is old enough to know how much work all of that stuff was, and how much of it falls on women.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I fully support a woman's right to stay at home and be a housewife if it's what she wants, but the way it was written in the books... I don't know, it didn't sit right with me. I don't really see the point in glorifying housework, and I AM a housewife. I want to spend time with my family, not be up to my elbows scrubbing dirty underwear in a tub, and I look askance at people who try to romanticize that sort of work. It's honest, hard work and sometimes it needs to be done, but come on, let's not act like it's the stuff dreams are made of.