[ SECRET POST #3332 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3332 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
(David Bowie)


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03.
(Great British Bake Off for Sports Relief, Ed Balls)


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04.
[Pokemon]


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05.
[Star Wars: TFA]


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06.
[Damian Lewis, Dick Winters, Band Of Brothers]


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07.
[Daughter of the Lilies]


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08.
[David Eddings]


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09.
[Sengoku Basara]


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10.
[JJBA]


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11.
[Men In Black I, II, III]
















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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[a_potato]

From the perspective of storytelling/writing, I think it gets some things right and some things wrong.

Finn and Rey are introduced well, in that their early scenes inspire curiosity and hint at fertile backstories. The Millennium Falcon and Han both enter the story in believable ways, and this is bolstered by the fact that we aren't given the complete story behind why things are the way they are. The pacing at the start is also very good. There are hints and teases and hooks.

But about halfway through, it kind of loses that. The suggestion that Rey is connected to a bigger whole is too abrupt, as is Finn's attachment to her. And Rey is so, so powerful, powerful enough that she should have been unconsciously doing things with the Force for years, and we just don't see that. I would have liked a scene where something weird happens and she's confused but shrugs it off, and I would have liked a scene where she and Finn have more of a moment than, "OMG we both did a thing and we didn't think we could do it and gosh, wasn't it cool!"

...I don't know where I'm going with this. I guess I half agree with you? I thought the movie was fun, a lot more fun than the prequels, and I'm optimistic about the next two. But I also think a couple of tweaks could have made it a lot better.

[esteefee]

I would add to that: Finn's rejection of his First Order conditioning is too complete and without any apparent repercussions (mental, physical? did they use drugs? what) or doubts and/or possible thoughts of returning to the fold.

Rey and Finn's instant attachment to Han is not believable, nor is their trusting him and Chewy so completely, regardless of whatever "reputation" he might have -- Abrams relied on our understanding of Han, not their in universe "rumors and stories" of these mysterious Han and Chewbacca people. Han's bad smuggling practices did almost get them both killed, after all, upon just meeting them.

Not only is Rey powerful, but she can fence. So can Finn, although it appears stormtroopers are only trained in projectile weapons. Hmm.

And I won't go into how impossible it would be to aim a superweapon across an entire solar system, let alone a galaxy. If you're off by a mere millimeter, by the time your laser reached its far distant destination, you'd be off by miles and miles. Not to mention the power of the weapon would attenuate the further you went. Even lasers are subject to a diffraction limit.

I can somehow believe both Death Star (Planets) having one, critical flaw before I can believe that happity-crappity.

[a_potato]

Why do you believe both Death Stars having one? The same limitation would apply.

I somewhat agree about Finn's fencing abilities, although his fight with that one guy demonstrates that others are similarly versed, if not quite as capable (and that can be put down to luck). I can also buy Rey's attachment to Han because she's heard of him, and appears to view him as the Ultimate Pilot.

I completely agree when it comes to First Order conditioning, though. If Finn was really raised in the fold from birth, then it should have been more difficult for him to go astray. Man, they could really have set up and leveraged Rey's treatment of him in a powerful way if they'd been willing to go for it.

[esteefee]

But I don't believe in both Death Stars having one. I just meant that was more believable than the other stuff, because designing shit is hard. But one critical flaw that blows this gigundo structure apart? And targeting across galaxies w/o error and like, three weeks of computation time? I guess I'm thinking Deep Thought is needed. :)

Also, why hadn't any of the X-wing technology advanced in all those years? It was like the Rebels were stuck in time.

[(Anonymous)]

Finn's story makes sense to me. The very first time he was supposed to kill anyone he balked--I don't find this preposterous in any situation--and it was something that wasn't thought out enough to be a consciously rebellious thing but put him at an immediate crossroads. He mostly ran from the FO at first because he knew he was in trouble (they confiscated his blaster for examination because witnesses said he wasn't firing it) and was prepared to keep acting out of fear rather than defiance until the big attack. Personally I think his reflexive goodness is refreshing when you can throw at a wall of genre movies and land on "I've done so many awful things but I'll help people while grunting about it and having angsty cries in the shower."

[(Anonymous)]

I thought the idea with the fencing is actually that nobody was particularly good at it.

Like, Kylo Ren was supposed to be in the middle of his training, and would have never used a lightsaber in a fight with another lightsaber before. So actually, all three of them were basically running off instinct, reflex and guesswork. It's not that they were all experts. It's that they all sucked roughly equally.

[fishnchips]

From the choreography of that fight at the end, it's actually implied that Kylo Ren is pretty skilled with the lightsaber. He also definitely has previous experience against a lightsaber from his time when he was still training with Luke.
He had, however, also taken a bowcaster blast to the stomach, some psychological troubles from killing his father mere minutes before and a general lack of control. He also had instructions to not kill Rey (he had the chance during that fight several times).

[(Anonymous)]

Not only is Rey powerful, but she can fence. So can Finn, although it appears stormtroopers are only trained in projectile weapons. Hmm.

Neither of them can fence. Rey tries to use Luke's lightsaber as a staff during her fight with Kylo Ren. She only wins because she opens herself up to the Force. And Finn gets his ass kicked by both FN-2199 and Kylo Ren.