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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-17 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3332 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3332 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(David Bowie)


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(Great British Bake Off for Sports Relief, Ed Balls)


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[Pokemon]


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[Star Wars: TFA]


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[Damian Lewis, Dick Winters, Band Of Brothers]


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[Daughter of the Lilies]


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[David Eddings]


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[Sengoku Basara]


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[JJBA]


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[Men In Black I, II, III]
















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(Anonymous) 2016-02-18 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I felt like Legolas and Tauriel's characters overlapped so much that it was pointless to have both. I kind of liked some of the "Legolas moments" in LOTR but I couldn't take seriously the barrels or the bat. It felt too cartoony. Legolas was so bitchy and mean and nothing like the character from LOTR. He should've been kept to a cameo. (Or better, he should've been used to explore Thranduil, rather than the hamfisted fridging of his mom, which the movie did basically nothing with.)

The nail in the coffin for me is that I should've been bawling my eyes out when Thorin died. We've spent three movies with the guy. But at most I became misty eyed solely on Martin's performance. It only happened the first time I saw the film, and I don't feel anything now (not like Boromir's death, which gets me every time). There just wasn't any emotional weight. Smaug's death felt anti-climatic. It was stupid to put it in the third movie. It left the second movie feeling hollow, and made Smaug feel like an afterthought overall because he's taken out so quickly and seems so inconsequential really.

I agree about Beorn. I didn't care for his look, either as a human or a bear. The bear looked like a wolf - I often couldn't tell it apart from the wargs. How do you mess up a bear? And I hated how they changed his backhistory so that he's the only one now. And they didn't even do anything with that change. They never followed through with anything they were doing, and it felt like "rule of cool" ruled all their decisions. It was all what looked cool (and I have a vastly divergent sense of what's cool from the filmmakers) and there was no depth.

It really was a disappointment all around.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-19 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they should've axed Legolas or just used him in a cameo role and given more time to Tauriel. It seemed so pointless, making an original character and then not really utilizing her full potential. I'm also not a fan of Legolas' fight scenes that defy the laws of physics. Once per movie is pushing it, frankly, and after ROTK and him skating off a Mûmakil's trunk, I'd had enough. I didn't want to see more of that in The Hobbit movies, which already felt too over the top.

I thought it was a poor decision to save Smaug's death for the third film. I understand why they thought it would be a good idea, but it just didn't work. The second movie felt too open ended, IMO, and the third movie was too rushed. It seemed like they had to hurry up and kill off Smaug to get to the real action and it wasn't the climactic moment it should have been. Way to undermine all the build up of DoS. Ditto Thorin's death, which was even more anti climactic. It sounds funny to say this, but I'm not sure the movie benefitted from seeing his fight firsthand. Like a lot of the battle scenes, it went on a bit too long and a bit too predictably so when he finally dies you feel more relief than grief.


Beorn... I didn't like the overall design. You're right, as the bear, he looked more warg-like than a bear. Aren't bears intimidating/majestic/terrifying enough on their own? Look at a Kodiak grizzly, ffs. His human look was even less impressive. When I think a bear-like man, I think someone with very broad shoulders, built like a barrel. This guy?

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/e/e3/Beorn_in_The_Hobbit_films.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160118133925

Look at him. Ridiculously fake hair/nose prosthetic and it looks like he's wearing a braided rug as a vest. SO disappointing. I don't think I'd be as hard on the films if LOTR had been so meticulously good about their character, costume and set designs. The attention to detail was incredible and it really showed in the final product. Peter Jackson admitted that pre-production was more rushed on The Hobbit and you can tell. It looks very ersatz in comparison.