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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-21 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3336 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3336 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, considering you're advocating for another human being being brutally murdered/tortured, I don't put much stock in your moral authority.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Define human being and then tell me how Mengele the baby torturer was one. Then we'll talk.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
define: human being - a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

Doing evil things does not rescind your humanity. That's how the Nazis justified it: that the Jews were subhuman and that they were part of an oppressive Zionist conspiracy and thus needed to be eradicated. Stripping people of their humanity is how atrocities happen.

My family's been the victims of a genocide (Armenian) so I know how Jewish people feel. But I wouldn't want the perpetrators tortured, just held responsible and made to face the consequences of their actions.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I am a Jew and I agree with this comment.

And also, I dislike the narrative of painting Nazis (and by extension other perpetrators of genocide and similarly horrific acts) as something other than human, because it allows humanity as a whole to sidestep taking responsibility for ourselves. Humans are capable of terrible things.

The Nazis were not otherwordly boogeymen beyond human understanding. They were not anthropomorphized blobs of Pure Evil. They were ordinary people who did terrible things. We should NOT absolve them of responsibility for their actions by treating them as though they were mindless beasts doing the only thing they knew how to do.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I only say pay evil unto evil.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-02-21 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
+100

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
Humans are capable of terrible things.

This, exactly. I just finished watching Joshua Oppenheimer's The Look of Silence and as horrifying as the perpetrators of the massacre are, they are nonetheless human. We're doing a great disservice to the victims by claiming that the butchers are not human, are Evil Incarnate, etc., IMO, because it's another form of making excuses for them - and a kind of denial, too, more of us may be capable of terrible things than we'd like to admit, if the right (wrong) conditions came together.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
well, as individual, either you are brain-dead or you are so broke, hatred is the only way you can expressed yourself.....?

don't consume something you can't even handle, it will eat you right back up.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't condone torture, but tbh if any human deserves to be murdered unpleasantly it was Mengele.