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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-21 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3336 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3336 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you know he didn't go after Mengele in this universe?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The notion that Magneto would 'forget' or pretend that he isn't Jewish is ridiculous -- in both the prequels and in the old movies his background as Jewish person, or at minimum his experiences in Nazi Germany, is a focal point for his character and one of the main reasons why he's so distrustful of humanity.

"I've been at the mercy of men just following orders. Never again."

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"Race traitor"? For real? I'm sure there are reasonable comments to be made about his relationship with his Jewishness but to be honest you can also fuck off outta here with that kind of language.

'Race traitor'. Jesus Christ.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-02-21 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem to be presuming a lot about his character. You don't know what Nazis he hunted down (though I think he was focusing on ones who could help him find Shaw).

Also, not really much you can tell about what he does in his spare time. Considering every time we see him is in the middle of some small war or world ending event or another.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah and it's entirely possible that Magneto could have experienced something similar to what Elie Wiesel where after what he's been through, as far as he's concerned, God is dead. Being in a Nazi Concentration Camp has a tendency to shatter religious notions about there being a god who loves and protects his people.

But given the nature of the original secret, it's in all likelihood that Secret Sender is either a troll or remarkably ignorant/insensitive, though the two are virtually indistinguishable. So yeah, this post is probably pointless.

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oy vey.

Don't you have babies to mutilate and women to spit on for not sitting at the back of the bus?

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Shut the fuck up.

(frozen comment) I'm Just Saying

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
There's no way anyone from any other racial or ethnic group whatsoever could unironically use the term 'race traitor' without coming in for loads and loads and loads of shit for it.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-21 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Race traitor? Really? I'm seriously hoping this is a troll. Because otherwise that is one disturbing perspective there.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck you.

I don't believe for a second that you're actually Jewish, or that you have any interest in engaging in genuine dialogue about the depictions of Magneto's Jewishness in various X-Men media. I also doubt you have any legitimate criticisms to make of the admittedly shoddily-written XMFC film.

I am 100% certain that you're a Jew-hating troll who made this secret to stir up all the frothing-at-the-mouth anti-Semitic dickwads that lurk this comm.

Why are you doing this? Does it give you some sick joy to know that you're perpetuating an ancient cycle of hatred? Congratulations, you're a piece of shit. I don't believe in hell, but if I did I'd say there's a very special place for you in it.

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Shema Yisroel bitch.

I'll admit at least part of this was for some trolling amusement because what else happens when you mentions Jew on F!S? Another part genuinely dislikes Magneto for focusing all his energies on his mutant plight and ending up adopting a lot of the same tactics as the nazis. My last straw was when he agreed with Shaw and only killed him for revenge against his mother.

Unlike you, I prefer to have my perpetual cycle of hate out in the open. I don't pretend that it isn't there and hope it's stopped existing. Better people should see the hatred in the world with clear eyes.

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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-02-21 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
There's also a chance it's the same person who got outrageously angry with me because I said that Christmas was a secular holiday and they acted like my saying so was some sort of oppression against her Jewish faith.

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, considering you're advocating for another human being being brutally murdered/tortured, I don't put much stock in your moral authority.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Define human being and then tell me how Mengele the baby torturer was one. Then we'll talk.

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't condone torture, but tbh if any human deserves to be murdered unpleasantly it was Mengele.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-02-21 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
But...he's not.

Both are pretty integral to his identity, and he acknowledges this. In fact his experience in WW2 is what make him so very obsessed with history repeating when it comes to mutants.

Clearly, with mutants in play, history sort of works out differently, and I can see why "mutant" would be your dominant identity, because superpowers are a much bigger difference than religion or even ethnicity.

As for him not hunting down Mengele. first, we don't know he didn't. Hell, I'm not even sure Mengele exists in this universe.

But say he didn't...that's a slippery slope. What you say is that he basically should have spent the rest of his life murdering old Nazi's. (and you might not see it as murder but legally it would be).

So, is everyone who doesn't kill a Nazi when they can a bad person? Is he different because he is shown to be capable to take a life? I think putting that expectation or responsibility on one person is unreasonable at best.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And fwiw both the comics and the films have had him hunting down Nazis who got away with their crimes.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You might as well say Captain America is a traitor for not hunting down Osama bin Laden as soon as the towers fell.

lol no

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[personal profile] purpleseas 2016-02-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Since this is some troll shit that's horribly worded even for that, the important thing here is that Fassbender's bone structure is so perfect that it kinda freaks me out. This movie is on cable a lot lately, and I keep putting it on just to look at his face and go what? I can never figure out if he's hot or what, it's like finding good architecture hot, you know? lol

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, if you're not a JEWISH person yourself you're definitely a fucking asshole

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Wow.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
i pretty much believe you posted this as a troll to make people hate jewish people even, in which case fuck you

It's just the the characterization of him as a Jew is so fucking bad

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Going anon for this but - THANK YOU! YES! THIS! OH MY GOD YES! Race Traitor is not the term I would because Judaism is a RELIGION not a race - calling it a race is part of what the Nazis did wrong but whatever - but the way he is being written, particularly in the 2nd and(if the trailer is anything to go by)3rd movie in the 1st class series is so fucking terrible that as a Jew I'm cringing. Like really? REALLY? THATS WHAT YOU ARE GIVING US? ONE OF THE ONLY STAUNCHLY JEWISH CHARACTERS IN THE MU? WHOSE CANON ORIGIN ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND YOU'RE GOING TO TURN HIM INTO THIS?

So thank you anon, for saying it so I dont have to.