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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-21 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3336 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3336 ⌋

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kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Feminism, but not like that

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-02-21 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
-Hating men as a group/class

-Being pro-female and anti-man rather than being pro-equality

- double measures (i.e. you can't hit a woman even if she's coming at you with a knife, but men are inherently violent so you can punch them, but hey we're equal here)

-Generally also bad attitudes towards trans people

-Unrealistic world view (over emphasis on certain issues, buying into false statistics etc)

-Generally also unhealthy views on sex and relationships

- Denying (sexual) violence against men exists

- belittling problems men face (not necessarily because they're men). I.e. "He's disabled, but he's a guy, so who cares)

- Seeing sexism everywhere in daily life and believing this is the main issue in their life.

- Over-emphasis on (their own) gender.
Edited 2016-02-21 22:23 (UTC)

Re: Feminism, but not like that

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
buying into false statistics etc

Such as?

Seeing sexism everywhere in daily life

I never get how people can not see sexism in their daily life. It's fucking everywhere.

Over-emphasis on (their own) gender

I'm not sure I follow you on this one, what do you mean?
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Feminism, but not like that (tw:rape mention)

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-02-21 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
buying into false statistics etc

Such as the 1 in 4 rape statistic, which was from a very dubious survey (yes, survey, not even scientific study).

Such as statistics used for unequal pay (that IS a thing, but unfortunately many of those statistics did count women who deliberately work part-time, making the difference seem bigger).

I never get how people can not see sexism in their daily life.

Of course it exists in everyday life. But if you have 12 situations a day where you actively consider it a hurdle I do think your view might be a bit obsessive.

Over-emphasis on (their own) gender

I guess a better way to put it would be : consider gender the most important part of their own or someone else identity and being.

Edited 2016-02-21 23:17 (UTC)
philstar22: (Default)

Re: Feminism, but not like that (tw:rape mention)

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-02-22 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The 1 in 4 statistic is actively taught, though. At least, I majored in Criminal Justice and we were taught that statistic. And this was at a fairly conservative school. So that statistic is out there and being taught to people who don't know any better.

Rape rates are still pretty high, just not that high (probably).

Re: Feminism, but not like that (tw:rape mention)

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
"unfortunately many of those statistics did count women who deliberately work part-time"
Except that should count in a lot of cases. Because a lot of women cut down their hours/work part-time so they can take care of the kids, which often wouldn't be asked of the husband. I know several women who love their jobs and who would love to work full time (and be paid for it), but who can't because their husband works full time and they stay home part of the time to take care of the kids. I still see that as very much tied in with gender and think it should count as part of the wage disparity. Just like the women who have lost opportunities on the raise/promotion track because they took time off after having a baby.

Re: Feminism, but not like that (tw:rape mention)

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Look, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Whichever parent decides to cut hours at work is going to be passed over for promotions. If the woman chooses to stay home, she's the one getting passed over. If the man does, he's the one getting passed over.

My husband decided to be the parent that stayed home, and he's lost considerable opportunities at work for it. Not to mention his coworkers just assuming that he's lazy and/or "whipped" because it isn't possible that a father would choose to stay home with his child instead of a mother.

In other words, it works both ways.