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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-21 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3336 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3336 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
nah, I'm not saying censor youtube videos. someone will upload the original anyway. I say publish book editions without it. if there's a demand for it, why not? not everyone wants that kind of content, not because it's "PC" but because its uncomfortable. and not everyone can improv while reading it to their kid.

I say, if it's an unnecessary part then... just drop it. Do you know Don Camillo, the Italian priest who's in a friendly rivalry with the communist mayor? The author was racist as fuck. The prefaces he wrote are outright racist and I only stumbled over it in an old edition. Nobody misses them.

Prefaces are kinda superfluous anyway, but if I could read a version of these stories without the racist undertones, I would. It would improve the work for me.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
And who chooses? Whose version of morally correct will will out?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
the same people who produce and edit the simple english version, the book of the movie adaption of the original, the abridgements for the audio book, the reimagination with zombies, localizations and translations etc of a book :)

and whose version will win out? obviously the one which sells the most books.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Who buys the books? Children don't have that control - they have to take what adults permit them access to.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
parents don't have more control over their children just because edited versions of books are available.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
On what planet? I had nice folks who let me pick what I liked from the library. I also had access to a library that want subject to the whims of the local religious/SJW (same diff) wingnuts in terms of content.

Not every child is so blessed.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
but if I could read a version of these stories without the racist undertones, I would. It would improve the work for me.

Read a different book, then, or some sort of sanitised fanfic, but bowlderised versions to cater to your discomfort?... Nah. These attitudes were real and these books - those of them that have lasted this long - tend to be fine works and the fact they do notreflect contemporary values is incidental to their worth. Introductory material can tackle such matters for those who want some additional context.

Or, if you feel you can justify abridging or altering someone else's work, the the publisher should stick to fanfic protocol - "not my characters, not my original work, changes not sanctioned by author" - just so the reader is good and clear what they are getting.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
if the racism "is incidental to their worth", then you can also leave it out tho.

you don't want it to be "easy" for me, but I feel under no obligation to feel uncomfortable and constantly aware about issues that pertain me in real life if it adds nothing to the story.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Other books are available.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you never care about books whose content you don't like 100%

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I often read books that challenge me. I don't demand that their contents are altered to suit my sensibilities. What would be the point of that?

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Why does your personal discomfort trump the author's right to have her work represented accurately? Like most keen readers, I encounter material that I sometimes find uncomfortable, challenging and distressing. If I find it too much, I can always stop, read something else, and come back later if I want. So can you.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
why does your personal discomfort trump my right to read an edited version if I wanted to? I'm not taking away your right to be uncomfortable, challenged and distressed.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Likewise, why not read one of the thousands of other books that don't contain this material? Who are you to have texts altered for your convenience and comfort? Or write your own text that only contains what you like. This notion that you somehow have a right to never encounter anything discomfiting is infantile.