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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-03-06 05:43 am

[ SECRET POST #426 ]


⌈ Secret Post #426 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 67 secrets from Secret Submission Post #061.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] too big.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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[identity profile] lavendergray.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I love how UPSET people get about it too. "How dare you criticize me for masturbating to the thought of raping children! That's so INSENSITIVE!"

Re: 32

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Mmm, not quite what people here are trying to defend. Although I gotta admit, I was pretty amused at all the strikethrough wank when it happened. "WHAT DO YOU MEAN, I CAN'T WRITE STEAMY SEX FICS WITH FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS?!"

Honestly, I will never understand why people write porn with kids who are ridiculously young. Granted, people were marrying their cousins when they were fifteen, but that was over a hundred years ago when people could only farm, procreate and go to boring parties in their spare time.

Re: 32

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN, I CAN'T WRITE STEAMY SEX FICS WITH FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS?!"

Just a side point, but in large parts of the world you actually can...

Re: 32

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, yeah, I know that. But given the fact that Livejournal is an American company or is it Russian now? I'm so confused.... well.

Re: 32

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but LJ wasn't doing a really great job in making things clear to people which was why there was so much wank.

I mean LJ originally had no problem, then changed their TOS without telling anyone, then a few days later said 'no-no fanworks is OKAY!', then banned two fanartist who had aged-up the characters in question to adults, then they really didn't give any clear answer when people started pointing out that two months earlier the CEO of the company told us himself that fanworks wouldn't be targeted, then they had no explanation for the fact they allow a real pedophile to keep his LJ, then they had no explanation why an anorexia comm is allowed to stay despite the fact it gives TIPS on how people (specifically underaged girls) can kill themselves by not eating, etc, etc.

Basically it came down to people being pissed at LJ for wanting to "protect" fictional characters but not real children. It seemed like everyone except for LJ got the fact that 'real people > fictional characters'.

Re: 32

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they didn't think people needed to be explicity told things like rape and incest and sex with children are wrong. Maybe they still had a shred of faith in humanity and thought it was common sense.

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(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
To stir tangentally related wank, it amuses me how some of the countries with laws prohibiting fiction about rape and underage sex are so fail about prosecuting actual underage rape, especially when it's not a poor little while blonde girl who's the victim. I"M LOOKING AT YOU AUSTRALIA JUST FYI

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[identity profile] everworld2662.livejournal.com 2008-03-09 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, say you're not serious.

About the "Australia prohibiting fiction about rape and underage sex".
And also about the second part too, of course (but what else is new? *facepalms*).

God, I know one of those things is true, but TELL ME THE FIRST ONE ISN'T.

That would make me so sad to live in Australia. So sad. What's wrong with this place?!!!!!

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well, generally people just go "bah, another one who failed to understand that fiction=/=reality, let's write some porn", but I'm sure someone will come across as a bit testy. Maybe. Don't give up hope yet!

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[identity profile] lavendergray.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm impressed you were able to take time out of your busy schedule of furiously jacking it to the thought of someone screaming in pain. Please don't let me keep you from that.

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[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Many of us just jack it to incest, but thanks for playing.

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[identity profile] hopelikefever.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, way to return their civility.

And before you accuse me of raping small children in my spare time, incest is my only squick, and I don't take a liking to non-consensual sex.

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[identity profile] mahpantsaregone.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Where the hell did that come from?

Not trying to add any wank, here, (or, indeed, jack it furiously to the thought of someone screaming in pain), but damn, it wasn't a personal attack.

Deep breaths ♥

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[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Whoo hoo, ad hominem, ad hominem!

(For the record, any form of noncon makes me hit the back button faster than bad writing, screaming: "ARGH, get it away, get it away!" I just hate the thought of restricting what people can write more.)

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[identity profile] twilightbyproxy.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I love how people keeping mistaking any sexual fetish for pedophilia. The secret specifically states RAPE and INCEST. NOT PEDOPHILIA. Not everything has to be all "Think about the poor children!"

I honestly don't see why SEX or SEXUAL DESIRE always without a doubt will be equated with MOLESTING and VIOLATING CHILDREN. Every time I see that I personally think that ones who make that connection to support their arguments are the true sickos.

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[identity profile] lavendergray.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm a bit self-righteous over here.

But at least I don't salivate over the thought of raping someone, so I'm pretty sure I still have the moral high ground.

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[identity profile] twilightbyproxy.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I've never seen any of my fandoms do that either. Must be something so underground that you actually have to look for it to find it.

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[identity profile] ccmars.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like incest and rape fics either, so since we're on the same page, I say to you: Grow up. That poor high horse's legs can only take so much weight.

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[identity profile] loticae.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
*HIGH FIVE*

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(Anonymous) 2008-03-08 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Except that the majority of people I know who write rapefic are actually getting off while imagining themselves in the place of the victim, not the rapist.

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[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I hope to God these people never read books or watch movies, that's all I'm saying. Damn that Gone With the Wind!

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[identity profile] twilightbyproxy.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. They'll hold their moral high ground as they imagine the atrocities of fictional violated children everywhere no matter when or where or what they read or watch. How horribly traumatizing it must be for them. They should get some serious help.

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[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Those poor, poor, non-existent children!

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(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
*worships you*