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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-03-06 05:43 am

[ SECRET POST #426 ]


⌈ Secret Post #426 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 67 secrets from Secret Submission Post #061.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] too big.
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(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

[identity profile] kanna.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
That's why I said "Jump imprint title."

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
But you also said "Shounen" Jump, which is what I wanted to correct.

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

[identity profile] kanna.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
OH IN THAT CASE

That doesn't change the point that I still wouldn't necessarily call anything from Shounen Jump good. I'm sure pretty much nothing else in Ultra Jump is particularly good, either. Either way, it doesn't really change my point, unless we're just going to be super pedantic about it.

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Are you angry now? O_o

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

[identity profile] kanna.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
=3=)/ SARCASM AND ANGER AREN'T THE SAME THING ♪

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
... but why the sarcasm?
All I did was correct some minor error. Why are you blowing this out of proportion - instead of just saying "Oh, I mixed the magazines up" and be done with it?

(frozen comment) Re: 47

[identity profile] kanna.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
seriously guys, I think you're expecting me to be more upset about this than I actually am. I did make a mistake, but I honestly thought the fact that I acknowledged that I am aware of the fact that there are other things in the world that are published besides Shounen Jump was enough but obviously I was wrong.

I'm not trying to blow anything out of proportion, but if I'm getting mad about anything, I am getting irritated that people are picking apart the sentiment of what I was trying to say just because I made a pretty inconsequential mistake in my phrasing.

(frozen comment) Re: 47

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a little ticked off, too. Because all I wanted was to correct this mistake. Trust me, there are enough people out there who do not know the difference between Weekly Shounen Jump and Monthly Shounen Jump and Ultra Jump and all the others.

I just want to work against the confusion that this constantly causes. People usually understand the difference once it's pointed out, and no one gets angry or makes a fuss over it, but your reaction was really odd. You seemed to be insisting that all Jump titles were the same.
And then you went on a rant against Weekly Shounen Jump which really had nothing to do with what magazine DOGS is running in. It being seinen at all.

This really is not about the small mistake you made, this is about how you acted all pompous about it.

(frozen comment) Re: 47

[identity profile] kanna.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'll admit that I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to HOW many Jump imprints are out there, but I am aware that there are others. I've got no problem with being corrected on mistakes, but when it comes across as angry nerd errata, it just rubs me the wrong way, especially when it has nothing to do with what I'm trying to say.

LET'S NOT FIGHT ANYMORE ABOUT MANGA PHONEBOOKS OKAY ;3;

But I don't know, man, I'm willing to extend that argument to Shoujo magazines and American comics, or pretty much any form of media. It's just the simple principle of the "90% of everything is shit," right? I don't care if it's seinen, because the point applies no matter what magazine it's in.

(frozen comment) Re: 47

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure she just said Shounen Jump, not Weekly Shounen Jump. That part's all you. Don't see any ranting going on except for on your end, Mr/Mrs/Ms/sflkajw Mouse.

And FWIW, since all those are sons/daughters of Shounen Jump, it's not inaccurate to just say "SHOUNEN JUMP" when referring to them. Srsly.

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Different anon to say -

Oh, I don't know, fans of Hadashi no Gen, Cat's Eye or even Hikaru no Go, fans of Nagai Go or just plain old Tezuka (who did, surprise surprise, have several titles in Jump once upon a time - Shounen Jump, too) might disagree.

Let alone the fans of Gunnm/Battle Angel Alita (Business Jump), Gantz (Young Jump) or Inoue Takehiko (who published in Young Jump and Shounen Jump, among others).

I'm kinda partial to Big Comic Original (due to their load of Urasawa) myself and honestly, the current titles in SJ kinda put me in despair, but to say all Jump imprints are automatically bullshit kinda misrepresents the situation.

Or maybe that's just me, seeing I don't even know what Dogs is in the first place and don't really give a damn.

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

[identity profile] kanna.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
When did I say they were bullshit?

Oh my goodness I didn't realize I was fucking such a beehive when I tried to say that I don't think there's anything world-shattering in Shounen Jump right now. Considering how rare good manga (or good comics in general) is, I didn't really think that was a pretty big stretch.

As fond as I am of huge, all-encompassing blanket statements, I guess I have to make sure to dot all my i's before I say anything that could cause people to jump right up my ass (JUMP GET IT) on F!S, because I sure as hell wasn't trying to say that Jump has never published anything worthwhile.

MY GOODNESS. All I was trying to say is that you can't shit on DOGS and then like Bleach, because they're really about on par with each other.

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I sure as hell wasn't trying to say that Jump has never published anything worthwhile

Well, you failed. But thanks for playing.

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Statement the first: Learn to differentiate between SHOUNEN Jump and the other Jump titles. It might save your life! Or at least make you appear less an uneducated fantardling.

Statement the second: Having now read up on Dogs, I can see why you'd like it. Chain-smoking bishounen and mysterious scars, oh my! What NOVEL IDEA!

Statement the third: If you occasionally bothered to adjust your tone before flipping out and attempting to show how much you not care, people might not want to kick your arse to Mercury, if you know what I mean.

Statement the fourth: I'd guess the person doesn't dig Bleach either. Popular != good. In fact, usually something being popular means a direct trip to shittytown to drown in the ever same formula until you shit liquid boredom.

Incidentally, I hate Bleach and the last Jump title I read with any regularity AND finished was probably Rurouni Kenshin, so stop jumping on MY ass (LOL I MADE A FUNNY AIN'T I COOL).

(frozen comment) lol F!S loves its fights

[identity profile] kanna.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
So basically, you agree with me on a lot of this but you're too worried about making sure I know where I stand in this "fight?" I'm just a little off-put that apparently, since I made a mistake in a casual comment, I'm incredibly offensive-- even if that mistake wasn't even the point I was trying to make.

I was trying to say was that things that are popular are rarely good, BUT that doesn't mean that it's shameful to read them. Not everything is going to be Citizen Kane, and it's okay to go watch some worthless summer blockbuster every once in a while.

Maybe I'm just overly optimistic, but I wasn't really under the impression that anybody reading DOGS in particular had any sort of pretension that it was anything new, groundbreaking or even really special, but hey. Apparently I often overestimate the ability of fans to let things roll off their back, judging by all of this mess of COMPLETELY missing my point.

By the way, I'm flattered that you read up on DOGS just to try to attack me! I've never had anybody make angry assumptions about my taste before!

(frozen comment) Re: 47 USIN' ALL MY DOGS ICONS

(Anonymous) 2008-03-07 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Statement the first: Learn to differentiate between SHOUNEN Jump and the other Jump titles. It might save your life! Or at least make you appear less an uneducated fantardling.

LOLOLOL

Let me translate that into plain English for other people reading:

1) PAY ENTIRELY TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO POINTLESS SHIT. GOD FORBID YOU HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE BEING A SOCIALLY RETARDED FUCKHEAD.