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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-03 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3347 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3347 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Sound of Music]


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[Step Up Revolution]


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[Richonne & Ichabbie/Andy+Danai, Nicole+Tom]

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(Hamilton)


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[Elementary]

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-03-03 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm no artist, but I count four different nose designs and five different eye designs among those six pics. Maybe he just has a type.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-03 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
He certainly has a set art style, but I can tell the characters' facial features apart. This is better than a lot of comic artists out there, esp animu sameface ones.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-03 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know the artist but I don't see how you're getting "same face". They all have different eyes, noses, and face shapes, not to mention actual coloring. How do these all look identical to you? I agree they are more or less the same style, but these are in no way the same faces.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2016-03-04 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
The mouths, too. He sure likes full lips, certainly, but the degree of fullness varies (from 'lay off the collagen' in the top left to 'bordering on thin' in the bottom left), only the two in the top left seem to have a cupid's bow going on, the middle top appears to have a prominent philtrum, which none of the others have...it's hard to tell given she's pouting, while the others are smiling or speaking (...or vocalizing, in any case), but I think her mouth may be more forward than the others.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2016-03-04 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Incase is a well known porn artist in certain internet circles. He enjoys drawing across the spectrum (Boy on Boy, Boy on Girl, Girl on Girl, Girl on Boy (Girl with penis) Girl on Girl (One or both girls with penis))

http://buttsmithy.com/archives/comic/fgsfds
He is also currently doing a very good fantasy story called "Alfie" which deals with Halflings. It starts out a little slow but it develops an actual storyline, which includes older characters (who still enjoy sex), and I really like the expressive faces Incase draws!

Link (Lots of pages will involve sex, nsfw warning!)


Spoiler Alert: This is not the answer.
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(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
They all look rather different to me? Maybe I'm not a detail person.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2016-03-04 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Not familiar with this person, but...yeah I agree with the other commenters. I definitely see a style, but I also definitely see different faces. I think you're kinda reaching on this point.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2016-03-04 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
4 out of the 6 women in your secret do not have caterpillar eyebrows.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I see it OP.

It's not necessarily in the individual features (which tbf are all incredibly generic stock "pretty comic girl" features) but in the overall placement and sizing.

Huge (mostly upturned) eyes. Long nose bridge with teeny tiny nose. Pouty lips with the mouth damn near sliding off the chin. Looking at more pictures it's really clear that the only real distinguishing characteristic is often the eyebrows and skin color.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Was gonna post something similar, there's definitely similar placement and proportion on all the features. I wouldn't think of it as straight-up sameface, but if you imagine all these characters in the same story, they'd seem same-y.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this (and thus, I guess I agree with the OP too). I think the girl on the lower left is different, but the chins/jaws, mouths, pouts, and that splash of coloring across the face are all the same. And the eyes seem to be one of two types, but both look similar. I guess he just has a type.

I do think he can charge whatever he thinks his time is worth for his commissions, though. If people are willing to pay it, more power to him.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Chiming in to say I agree with OP too, and I'm really surprised at all the vitriol and sarcasm in this thread. He's literally got the same style as about 8 million other porn artists. And yeah, I checked out his work after it was linked here. His "Alfie" comic? I had a hard time telling his two halfling characters apart, despite one supposedly being in like her 40's and the other girl being what I assume is the typical "lusty teen" trope. Sometimes it seems like he forgets to make the older character look her age and then you're left wondering which is which. To make it worse they're mother and daughter too, which if you know anything about character design and avoiding confusion means it's even MORE important to give a character a differentiating visual cue, whether it be a unique hair style, hair ornament, having the daughter be a mix of the mother and the father instead of a carbon copy of the mother, pretend I listed like a million more little tings you could do here but I don't feel like listing because I don't have the time.

So yeah. Checking out his stuff, I found myself confused. I think what possibly affected secret OP might be the same thing I noticed affecting me. At first it seems like he has a fairly unique "style", if you just kinda...glance at his stuff without going deeper. (And you're not familiar with all the other porn artists that draw basically that exact same generic later-disney-works inspired porn comic style.) Except the more I read his stuff on EHentai, and looked at his pics, the more they all kind of blended together for me. I would think I saw the same character in different comics but here it was a total different character. Things like that.

Eh. It seems like he's got his niche and what the hey, I'm a businessman too, if you can do it, go and get it, more power to him. I've done some pretty shrewd things that I absolutely think customers would probably feel essentially 'cheated' by (simply because I had the knowledge and contacts to make a sale where they didn't, but I charged an exorbitant amount for that knowledge and contact and did very little actual 'work'), which is basically what he's ding with both his style and especially the commission price deal. But I can totally see why OP is put off, about both the commission thing (which I addressed in another comment somewhere with more detail on why I think OP has a right to think that this is pretty pricey fr the work rendered) and the general semi-competent mediocrity. I feel like everybody here has a really low threshold for "quality". He's literally just a porn comic artist like all the others. Would I hire him to create something for a business? Absolutely not. He's not talented enough, and it's obvious he lacks a lot of professional training and direction. To his credit, he really, really did find his own niche though and it's pretty obvious he's sticking to it.

*Shrug* It really doesn't matter nearly as much to me as this comment might make it sound (it's late here and I'm stuck in bed bored to my defense). I get why he does what he does. But I also understand why OP has gripes. But apparently they're just 'jealous of his success' and 'ridiculous'.

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-03-04 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Looks more like he has a type. He's drawing porn after all--the idea is to draw what he wants to get off on. You can't be surprised when there's not a lot of facial or body diversity from a porn artist--they're literally drawing their idea of the ideal female (or male, or NB, or tentacle creature).

Also, $100 isn't a lot to start a commission at. If an artist can command that price then then it's worth that.
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[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-03-04 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I like his work. I don't like futa.

It is a paradox.

Also, he doesn't draw sameface what are you talking about? He has a set list of expressions he really likes to draw, but his characters all have different features.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2016-03-04 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
>This artist always draws sameface!
>Post six different faces

(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
An artist asking for money for their work that they're probably worked very long and hard on?
Oh no the horror!!!

Lmao you sound like one of those obnoxious people who think all art should be free and that's its extreamly easy to make.
Go get bent.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-03-04 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Regardless of anything else about the guy, I'm not seeing a whole lotta Sameface here.
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[personal profile] raspberryrain 2016-03-04 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
No.

Yes, he's sticking to a style with large wide-set eyes and narrow jaws, but within that, these are all different designs. The facial differentiation and individualization here is way, way above average for comic art.

And I couldn't have even told you that the honey-haired girl on the bottom left was by the same artist.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2016-03-04 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I, like almost everyone else apparently, don't think these faces look too samey, but mostly I'm here to say I actually think this art is lovely and now I want to check his comics out.

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I was just going to say that they all look like bad porn cartoon faces. I AM an artist with formal training, fyi.

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think it's the lips and their relatively low placement on that (always very very tiny!) chin/jawbone. The noses and eyebrows look more differentiated than the average comic artist. But yeah... that lips/jaw really makes everyone look like they're dragging their lips two inches down to pull the same pouty expression, I agree.

Also, I know it's popular, but I hate the blush around the ears/eyes. Makes it look like all the ladies get their makeup done by the same person.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Well there a little more variety than some comic book artists but that's not saying a lot. I do think it falls into same face.

Don't bitch about what he asks for his commissions. Artist's are allowed to value their time and work. People who want his services will pay for it.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-03-04 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
And? That’s how some artists are successful. They have a market and they can sell. I follow a porn artist on tumblr who basically draws everyone as big girls and they share very samey faces. But she's good and her art is pretty and she sells.

Also, you think he's over priced? Looking at your exampkes alone, I say his skill is worth that much. On top of how much time it takes to even DO art.

That whole line just makes you sound like an entitled asshole who wants their porn art for free, fuck the artist.

In fact, this whole secret sounds entitled and jealous of his success.

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-04 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yuk. They look like they have suction cups attached to their chin in stead of mouths.