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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-11 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3355 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3355 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth]


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[Partners in Crime]


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[The 100]


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(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I find it kinda funny that in the past, whenever I've talked about this community having issues regarding lgbt topics, espcially represention. But I've always been ignored or dismissed by other users.

Yet here it is, a secret openly making fun of and laughing at lgbt people being upset over a gay character dying, and half or so of the comments agree with it.

Lmao never change F!S

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
We're laughing at the entitled fans who believe that lgbt characters should be given special treatment because of their sexual orientation and never die. A show doesn't 'fail hardcore' for killing a lesbian character the same way it killed dozens of other characters before.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Shows don't exist in a social vacuum, no matter how you want them to be "treated equally" by always killing off half of the lesbian couple

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
We can kill them both if that's what you want ʅʕ•ᴥ•ʔʃ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwlqC7SNxN0

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
When you say "don't exist in a vacuum" you mean you do want special treatment. You want none of the gay characters, on a show where people are always dying, to die.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

It's short sighted to think that media doesn't have a cumulative effect. When the same tropes are followed over and over, you can't help but expect there's going to be a reaction from fans who are fed up with it. Whether that's people rolling their eyes of the "take off the glasses and become sexy" trope, or more sinister tropes that seem to many people to cause damage IRL (reinforcing terrible things), I mean, you can't say that doesn't add up.

Are fans overreacting? Who knows? But seriously, the people who say it shouldn't matter sound like the people who say they don't see color. Yeah, cuz they're American-white and don't want to think about it.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
No I don't, but it says a lot about your lack of understanding of that phrase.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Buy that's exactly what you are saying: "don't kill the lesbians, give them special treatment! If you don't I'll riot".

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I still don't see what so wrong about someone not wanting an openly gay character to die.
:/
You're all proving my point btw.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
You should (re)read the comments, no one is making fun of people who are sad about this character dying. Some of us liked her too and are sad.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
No one ever wants their favorite characters to die. I would love for all of my favorites on this show to survive. Except that really wouldn't be reasonable here. Everyone dies. People with a lot of impact especially die. I think the article someone linked above explains it well. http://www.themarysue.com/our-heda-lexa-the-100-lgbtq/ Were there unfortunate implications? Such that the timing of her death could have been done a bit better? Yes. But I don't think her death itself had any significance above and beyond other deaths. And I'm sure there will be plenty more.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I promise you not everyone who's laughing here is straight. I'm laughing because I'm strong enough that I don't view every gay character death through the lens of a personal attack.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Which comments do you see agreeing with the secret? I certainly don't think half of the comments are agreeing with it. I see a lot of comments (including my own) that think people being upset over her death is fine, but that it doesn't necessarily make TPTB homophobic. I certainly am not laughing at people upset by her death. I am upset by her death. I just hate that what people are turning this into. Instead of getting to talk about how much her death sucked, we're expected to find the show homophobic and letting us down or whatever. There is a middle ground, and I wish people could find it.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so I'm neither a man nor am I straight and while I'm not laughing, I can't can't help being a bit like "I told you so"?
I respect the grief and the anger. Hell, I think HOW she died was bullshit and pretty insulting. She should have gone out fighting and not some Tara redux right after sex.
BUT every time I tried talking to people about how this show had issues with race or hell, even just the 'harmless' stuff like pacing, I was dismissed as some bitter Bellarke shipper (I don't ship anyone on this show, except maybe Raven/Happiness). I get being happy about representation. I even get trying to ignore the bad stuff about a show (hell, I watched Glee for most of its run!), but the utter dissmissiveness some Clexa fans had towards any criticism was galling. I think THOSE are the fans meant here, not the normal ones.

(Like how the guy who plays Lincoln was just whining to them before when he/his mother said Rothenberg bullied him and suddenly they support him)

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
SA: Just to make it clear, I tried talking about it with people on my own blog and in forums and didn't goto Clexa blogs to interrupt their squeeing.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
I gotta say it was a little Schadenfreud-y watching everybody snivel and whine about how Ricky gotta be ~PRO-FESH-UN-AL~ and then after Rothenberg goes and fucks it up so hard the fandom finally loses their shit, now everybody and their dog's all "Oh yeah maybe Ricky and his mom did have a reason to be pissed off."

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like there's a lot of justified schadenfreude going on here so I think it's totally understandable to enjoy it. I haven't watched much of the show myself and I still see the ship wars and the smugness of the fans. I feel OP. Getting good representation is sweet, it still doesn't mean you get to be an ass to anyone who does have legit issues with the 100 or prefers other shows over it for whatever reason and are upset about things going badly (on those other shows).

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it seems like a lot of the people distressed over this are actually just taking this angle because it makes their point feel stronger than just being bitter that a character they liked died / a ship they like has ended.

I don't think there's anything special about her death in a show where character death is commonly used for shock value.