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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-11 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3355 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3355 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2016-03-11 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
09. [SPOILERS for The 100]
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(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
This. It's never cool to see something you love go down like that, but the social justice element is so two-faced. Where was all the outrage when the show was killing off POCs every five seconds?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
People tend to get outraged when it's about a character who represents them. If white lesbians are only getting upset now, I don't understand why that's bad.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard about this show a little here and there online and saw some of the reaction to that episode, and the thing that got me the most were the people who felt the show needed to take responsibility for those who were triggered and self-harmed and whatnot after that episode. I can understand people being upset to lose a character they love, as well as seeing a favorite ship end so tragically. And I can also understand people being frustrated at not seeing a happy non-straight couple on TV.

But...I just can't quite get on board with the idea that a TV show should be responsible for a viewer's mental health. I feel for anyone who is struggling with self-harm and suicidal thoughts, and I understand wanting to seek comfort in entertainment that can help people through that stuff. But to blame the TV show for triggering them just seems...I dunno.

Also, from what I do know about this show, it's pretty violent and dark and a lot of people die in general. If somebody wants to watch and root for happy, long-lasting couples of ANY sort, I'm thinking this would not be the show for them.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oh look, it's someone come to start the Oppression Olympics.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Can't be frustrated by both, can we?

Also pale skin = white person because america

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
It was a POC who got killed. She was a POC and a lesbian, who would have thought that possible?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
Lexa was not a POC.

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Quick question from someone who doesn't watch it:

Is this a Gotta Kill 'Em All! show or is it a Bury Your Gays situation?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The first one.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Bury Your Gays for sure. In the same episode she finally had sex with another woman, then was promptly killed.

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Neither? I think it is an Anyone Can Die (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnyoneCanDie ) show. People die. Lots of people die. Het people die, white people die, minority people die, and gay people die. It isn't all of any of the type of people. There are still gay/bisexual people left on the show. Including ones in a relationship. The character who died happened to be in a really dangerous role. They are at war. At one point 300 of her warriors died. On other occasions, multiple (even hundreds) of her people died. She was almost killed on several occasions. Several of her main people were killed, including the person she was in a relationship with before, who was kidnapped, tortured and beheaded by another Grounder clan.

I hate that she died. I liked her character a lot. But there have been other characters I liked who have died, and even more characters I like will die in future episodes, I'm sure. No one is safe on this show, except, maybe, the lead.

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-03-11 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
So they were thinking they'd finally found a show that had decent representation, and because of their pride, they may have been smug about that fact, making you feel as if they were rubbing it in others' faces.

Now the show has let them down and destroyed one of the few examples of f/f canon relationships on TV.

I can't say I take any joy in it. F/F relationships need good representation more than smug fans need taken down a peg.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Shocked to say it but I completely agree

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, how dare queer people feel pride in seeing representation.

How dare any minority feel justly happy that their own are being presented in a non-stereotypical way in popular media.

Gosh.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of doubt they did it just to 'take fans down a peg.'

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Were there really that many smug fans? I think it's okay to be happy that your ship was canon and/or canon gay relationships are (were?) a thing in your favourite show.

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I never thought the Clexa fans were smug, though I was only on the fringes of the fandom so I can't say I have a clear picture. Now the Korrasami fans? Ugh, the smuggest

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Lol wow you kinda sound like an ass.

Then again for some reason, F!S is full of petty people who like seeing other fans upset over dead chracters so I'm not that surprised

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I find it kinda funny that in the past, whenever I've talked about this community having issues regarding lgbt topics, espcially represention. But I've always been ignored or dismissed by other users.

Yet here it is, a secret openly making fun of and laughing at lgbt people being upset over a gay character dying, and half or so of the comments agree with it.

Lmao never change F!S

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
We're laughing at the entitled fans who believe that lgbt characters should be given special treatment because of their sexual orientation and never die. A show doesn't 'fail hardcore' for killing a lesbian character the same way it killed dozens of other characters before.

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I promise you not everyone who's laughing here is straight. I'm laughing because I'm strong enough that I don't view every gay character death through the lens of a personal attack.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Which comments do you see agreeing with the secret? I certainly don't think half of the comments are agreeing with it. I see a lot of comments (including my own) that think people being upset over her death is fine, but that it doesn't necessarily make TPTB homophobic. I certainly am not laughing at people upset by her death. I am upset by her death. I just hate that what people are turning this into. Instead of getting to talk about how much her death sucked, we're expected to find the show homophobic and letting us down or whatever. There is a middle ground, and I wish people could find it.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so I'm neither a man nor am I straight and while I'm not laughing, I can't can't help being a bit like "I told you so"?
I respect the grief and the anger. Hell, I think HOW she died was bullshit and pretty insulting. She should have gone out fighting and not some Tara redux right after sex.
BUT every time I tried talking to people about how this show had issues with race or hell, even just the 'harmless' stuff like pacing, I was dismissed as some bitter Bellarke shipper (I don't ship anyone on this show, except maybe Raven/Happiness). I get being happy about representation. I even get trying to ignore the bad stuff about a show (hell, I watched Glee for most of its run!), but the utter dissmissiveness some Clexa fans had towards any criticism was galling. I think THOSE are the fans meant here, not the normal ones.

(Like how the guy who plays Lincoln was just whining to them before when he/his mother said Rothenberg bullied him and suddenly they support him)

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it seems like a lot of the people distressed over this are actually just taking this angle because it makes their point feel stronger than just being bitter that a character they liked died / a ship they like has ended.

I don't think there's anything special about her death in a show where character death is commonly used for shock value.