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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-11 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3355 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3355 ⌋

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[The 100]


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(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Quick question from someone who doesn't watch it:

Is this a Gotta Kill 'Em All! show or is it a Bury Your Gays situation?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The first one.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Bury Your Gays for sure. In the same episode she finally had sex with another woman, then was promptly killed.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Death By Sex is a trope too, and happens to straight couples all the time (and if it's just half the couple that dies, it's the woman, because men having sex is good but women having sex is slutty).

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, Clarke's pussy is poison. Did everyone magically forget that Finn died too? Everyone she likes dies.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Neither? I think it is an Anyone Can Die (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnyoneCanDie ) show. People die. Lots of people die. Het people die, white people die, minority people die, and gay people die. It isn't all of any of the type of people. There are still gay/bisexual people left on the show. Including ones in a relationship. The character who died happened to be in a really dangerous role. They are at war. At one point 300 of her warriors died. On other occasions, multiple (even hundreds) of her people died. She was almost killed on several occasions. Several of her main people were killed, including the person she was in a relationship with before, who was kidnapped, tortured and beheaded by another Grounder clan.

I hate that she died. I liked her character a lot. But there have been other characters I liked who have died, and even more characters I like will die in future episodes, I'm sure. No one is safe on this show, except, maybe, the lead.
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[personal profile] fenm 2016-03-12 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
There are still gay/bisexual people left on the show. Including ones in a relationship

So, you're saying there's still a same-sex relationship on the show?
Edited 2016-03-12 00:10 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yes.
Miller - http://the100.wikia.com/wiki/Miller
and his boyfriend Bryan - http://the100.wikia.com/wiki/Bryan

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
SA
And that relationship was very much featured in the latest episode. They definitely are shown as loving each other.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Guys don't suffer sudden death syndrome as much

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT
But in this case it is because the women tend to be the ones with power. Clarke was pretty much the leader of the 100. Lexa was the Commander of the Grounders. Several key people were women. Thus, several women die. I think this is very different to the situation of, say, Supernatural, where most of the characters are guys but most of the early deaths were women. (Like with the angels, where there was only one female angel, but she was the first to die.) Having women in positions of power in a horrific post-apocalyptic world that is at war on several fronts means that they are likely to die. I like that they made the Commander of the Grounders a lesbian. I like that they made the leader of the 100 a bisexual woman. If that means that a lesbian dies, it sucks, but it is better than having all of the main characters be straight white guys. At least in my opinion.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
This makes it all the more obvious that most of the outrage is from people who never even heard of the show until this happened.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I can understand fans being upset she died. Hell, I'm upset she died. It is upsetting. I loved her character and the relationship. And it is nice to see a F/F relationship that seemed more about the relationship than about titillating viewers. However, the show has a lot of death. A lot. And it's not like the character who killed was in a safe role and just happened to die because she was having a relationship with another girl. Her life has been at risk pretty much every day ever.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Nooooo, don't you see, the writers made her a lesbian because they knew she was going to die eventually! It's all a carefully plotted conspiracy from the beginning because every writer's biggest obsession is showing the world how much they hate lesbians!

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
One of the show's writers admitted that they had actually discussed that specific trope ("Bury Your Gays" vis-a-vis Tara in Buffy) and had arrogantly concluded they could carry it off better than anyone else.

So fucking excuse YOU, anon.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Source? I haven't seen any interviews with the writers about "Thirteen", just Jason Rothenberg.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Example:

http://okbjgm.tumblr.com/post/140772197406/and-if-you-guys-didnt-anticipate-this-much

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. Not buying it. I bet they discussed the trope because it's a good thing to be aware that tropes exist, and concluded that what they were doing wasn't an example. Because it isn't.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Tumblr, maybe. But I'm pretty sure that most of the outcry on Twitter is from people who never watched The 100.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm on Tumblr. I had never heard of The 100 until Lexa's death, so unless half the people I follow had been watching the show without posting about it at all until now (possible, but unlikely), lots of the outcry on Tumblr is also from people who never watched it.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
So basically fans are throwing a tantrum. Good to know. I feel their pain, it sucks when a character you love dies, but hell, doesn't sound like the show is homophobic.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I really don't think the show is homophobic. I actually loved when Lexa first came on to Clarke in the second season. As while Clarke wasn't interested at the time (it was really bad timing), it wasn't treated as a big deal at all. And they have a diverse cast, including at least one more gay relationship. It just is that there is a lot of death as the whole show is about various factions at war with each other. It sucks that Lexa died. I loved her and the relationship, and I wish she hadn't died. But people (especially leaders who fight in a brutal post-apocalyptic society) die. If she were the first death or the only death of significance or something like that, I would more think it was Bury Your Gays, but I just can't see it here.

Although, again, I can understand why people are upset and empathize with them wishing we had gotten more of her and their relationship. I just don't know why people can't just complain about that. And about how much it sucks that she died. Instead of having to make it about TPTB obviously being homophobic and this being a homophobic Bury Your Gays move.