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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-12 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3356 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3356 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Does it matter that in media, Asians and Native Americans are the least represented, and here's something erasing what little there is?

Granted, replacing a POC with a white person would always be worse, but in terms of representation, claiming they're all interchangeable isn't quite true.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Right now, black people are the most oppressed and all anyone cries about. Look at the fucking Oscars. No one cried about their being no NA,Hispanic, Asian, etc. Hell, all they talked about was how every nominee was white while ignoring the non-black and non-white nominees..

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Like I said, I don't think the comparison OP of the secret is making is quite the same since replacing any POC with a white person is worse than replacing them with each other.

I simply don't think POC of all ethnicities are equally represented either, so calling them interchangeable is also incorrect.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
But Iron Fist is white. So they are replacing a white character with a white actor. But people are complaining.

But no one complained when an Asian character was black washed.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I answered this below.

"quite the same *as what you're talking about, I meant."

All white oscars are erasing all POC equally, whether you come at it from the black angle or not.

I don't know why they didn't either, other than this is the first I'm hearing about it.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
They are erasing them equally but everyone only cares about black people. Oh, and the protesters are erasing the POC nominees (and winners) because they are not black.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Who is "everyone"? I'm personally against the "all-white Oscars," not the "non-black Oscars," but I guess people like me don't count?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Become a popular actor, blogger, Twitter user, or news site. That is everyone.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

quite the same *as what you're talking about, I meant.
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[personal profile] luxshine 2016-03-12 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm... A Mexican won Best Director and another won best Photography (Or somethign, I am not quite sure). I think it's a bit hard to claim there were no Hispanic people in the Oscars when you've got two big winners that night (and one of them was picking his third in a row)

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Tbf mainly people focus on the actors, not the people behind the scenes.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you know? Hispanic isn't a minority that matters.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't even a real minority. It is completely fictional. Everywhere else in the world what we call Hispanic, they just call white.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Tbf what Americans call "Hispanic" is usually white-from-a-country-not-considered-white or mestizo, so that's what I assume when it's used in this kind of discussion.

But yeah, "Hispanic" and "Latino" used as a race is an unclear and useless nonsense that has caused many debates, but most people in Fandom don't care.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
What? It doesn't matter what everyone else in the world calls Hispanic people. It matters how they're treated in the US, and Hispanic people with darker skin in the US are treated worse than light-skinned Caucasian people.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Fun fact: whites and black are over-represented at Oscars, Hispanics and Asians are the ones who are under-represented. But shhhhhhhhhh, let's keep on pretending that Oscars are ignoring black people.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
You're overlooking the fact that part of the reason for people getting upset this year is because there were some very good movies with very good performances by black actors that were overlooked. It's not that the Oscars are ignoring black people, it's that they ignored black people after a year in which some black people had done some Oscar-worthy work.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Citation?

I've seen graphs analyzing the racial demographics of actors versus the racial demographics of the U.S. population, which do show that both blacks and whites are overrepresented as actors. But I haven't seen anything analyzing the demographics of Oscar nominees.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Found this graphic on Tumblr some weeks ago, no idea where it comes from.

http://i.imgur.com/cRHblRB.png

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Thank you! So, looking at that graph, black actors are slightly underrepresented as Oscar nominees. However, once nominated, black actors are more likely to win an Oscar.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
If Native Americans want more representation then they have to stop attacking people who try to give them it. I guarantee that after this last week it is going to be a long time before any truly mainstream author tries to include them again.