[ SECRET POST #3356 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3356 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Way to totally miss the point of the book OP. At the time they were set/written in it wasn't socially acceptable for men to have deep emotional bonds. They had to be stoic and strong. But in the Outsiders the men/boys got to be evolved and have these deep bonded friendships and feelings for each other that only men who shared a battlefield were allowed to have. It wasn't some homo-erotic romp but an early challenge on gender roles that men could have the same kind of friendships historically shared by women.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I can see why it might read as secret gay relationships, but I think it's kind of sad when platonic male relationships/bonding with deep emotional connections aren't seen as a plausible thing that happens, of course it must be romance and/or lust.

[(Anonymous)]

Uhhh that is not the point of the book. What are you talking about? Men absolutely have been able to enjoy strong same-sex relationships throughout history. In fact, fear of "coming across gay" is a fairly recent development - male friends literally used to write love letters to each other, and not that long ago. The Outsiders isn't about a group of boys being afraid to show affection for each other at all - that was never once shown as a problem in the book. It's about class dichotomy and the struggles of gang violence through the eyes of an underprivileged adolescent.

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"Men absolutely have been able to enjoy strong same-sex relationships throughout history."

Nowhere did ayrt say they couldn't or didn't, only that it wasn't always seen as socially acceptable. The Outsiders was published in the 60s, which (even compared to today) was not necessarily a great time to be gay, or black, or a woman or a lot of things that were outside the societal "norm".

[(Anonymous)]

You're right, the 1960s weren't a great time to be black, or a woman, or gay. But that's not really the same as "men being able to have strong emotional bonds". That anon is claiming that The Outsiders is about men having strong social bonds where it was socially unacceptable - which is not true and not really what The Outsiders is about. I don't remember a single part in the book where Ponyboy or anyone else feels uncomfortable expressing their friendship or society oppresses them for it.