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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-12 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3356 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3356 ⌋

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Re: When non-fandom media talk about fandom/fanfic...

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, I swear I'm not radfem even though this next statement is going to bring out the 'whatev radfem' trolls...

The way fanfic is portrayed in the media, I think it's because there's still a general perception that women are not sexual beings outside of scenarios where men are present or in control. Men especially seem to struggle with this idea.

Re: When non-fandom media talk about fandom/fanfic...

(Anonymous) 2016-03-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
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I think it's more that culturally we tend to value and respect interests and perspectives which are typically thought of as masculine more highly than ones which are typically thought of as feminine. Feminine interests and perspectives tend to be belittled, dismissed, or ridiculed for being silly, trivial, shallow, excessively emotional, etc. Meanwhile, yes, there is some degree of questioning and pushback against masculine interests and perspectives, but for the most part they are respected or even glorified.

Fanfic's approach to sex and eroticism tends to be strongly feminine (as we typically define feminine). So much of it is about what the characters are thinking and feeling, about (mis)communication and pining and self-doubt and internal conflictedness, and insecurities and so on. And then it's also about extremely explicit, kinky-as-shit sex. And combining those two elements seems to make a lot of people, especially men, really uncomfortable. So many men (as well as a smaller percentage of women) seem to want all their porn sanitized: extremely explicit and kinky-as-shit is great, as long as it's just horny fucking. But whatever you do, don't bring thoughts and feelings and motivations and vulnerabilities into it - you know, "girl stuff" - because that's super embarrassing and off-putting.

Not that there's anything wrong with wanting your porn to be just horny fucking. It's a valid preference. The problem is that people who do want their porn to always be just horny fucking rarely seem to see porn involving thoughts and feelings and motivations and vulnerabilities as equally legitimate and valid.