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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-12 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3356 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3356 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
First, the writing you want to be popular is usually not the writing which will end up popular. That's just a thing, it happens to everyone, amateur or professional. What you wanted people to love vs what they actually love will not always sync up.

Second, people lie about what they like. Everyone says they hate reader fics but everyone has at least one they have read and liked, or one they secretly wrote themselves. Look, I'm a mod for one of those "celebrity sexual frustration" blogs, and people send me their fantasies *all the time* and there is seriously a huge under the radar audience for reader and OFC fics. Because in some fandoms, the desire is under served. All those people secretly reading your fic are telling everyone else that they don't read those types of stories, because they don't want to be made fun of.


Third, everyone needs to fucking quit hating on reader fic. Because genre doesn't make something inherently bad. People who read and write slash and canon het pairings aren't automatically artistically superior. Because the fact that something doesn't interest you, that doesn't actually mean all versions of it are always objectively bad (I read Ofc or reader fics only by authors whose writing of canon characters I already enjoy, it's not that hard). Because even if a specific fic is not good, everyone has to start somewhere, you don't learn to write better original characters by hiding behind someone else's. Because fandom complains about how there are no good/not enough female characters in various canons while simultaneously mocking and shaming young women out of expressing their sexual fantasies (or just general wish fulfillment) just because they made the mistake of admitting the character is really them, instead of pretending otherwise and instead using a canon character which they warp out of all recognition so the canon character essentially becomes their reader insert. This has been going on for so long that it goes beyond being afraid they'll be shamed or made fun of or that no one would read it, it doesn't even occur to a lot of fans that they could simply write their own character if canon doesn't meet their needs. And people are like "that's why I write slash, because there aren't any good female characters to work with".

Like, most of the comments I've seen on this Secret are blatant in their distaste for reader/OFC fic and most are assuming it isn't an opinion but an accepted, proven *fact* that the genre is inherently inferior. You never said anything about your story being badly written, only that it was "fun" and not like your "serious" fics, but they're all assuming you wrote a bad story.

But anyway, maybe your fic you wrote for fun is actually better than your "serious" fic and you just can't see it.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
This is an awesome post. Well said with all of it (especially the bit about fandom's attitude towards female characters, and writing one's fantasies).

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I love this comment. I want to marry it and have its comment babies.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
This comment is pure gold.

I think there comes a point where if you don't like any canon female characters, and you mock other women for writing reader inserts, and you turn up your nose at OFCs... then maybe you need to admit that you have a problem with women who are not you.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Great comment ruined by generalizations.

Everyone doesn't say or like the same things and that's ok. It's also ok to dislike or not being interested in a genre, and there's no need to act like "everyone" who doesn't like something is just saying so because they're ashamed to admitting otherwise.

Yes, most people should get off from their high horses, because the truth is their tastes aren't superior, but that's it.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll deny it vehemently if asked, but I love reader insert fic. Sometimes I just want to get pounded by my favorite hot characters.

No harm, no foul.