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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-13 04:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3357 ]


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philstar22: (Default)

Re: Inspired by #15

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-13 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Which is sad because I still like the first movie. But I have to think of it as a completely separate thing because everything is so different. It is not the same characters or the same universe at all. Even accounting for the timeline changes they are still too different to be the same people.

Re: Inspired by #15

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I've decided to head canon it as Nimoy!Spock being wrong about it being time travel. It was flat out alternate universe travel all along, it was never the same timeline and always an alternate universe like in Mirror Mirror and the lack of Goatees just threw him for a loop. Just the timeline was a little slower (and some universal laws about warp travel) were off a little.
philstar22: (Default)

Re: Inspired by #15

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-13 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that's a great way to look at it. Though I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of Romulus being destroyed in the main universe. But still this is a much better way to look at it.


But I'm still ignoring Into Darkness because the characterization there couldn't even be alternates of our characters.

Re: Inspired by #15

(Anonymous) 2016-03-13 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Romulus going boom is okay, I just think that there must have been a subspace wedgie under its star or maybe those Omega particles they wittered about in Voyager to explain the threatened the galaxy part (JJ ABrams sucks on spacial scale worse than George "Slow afternoon to Bespin" Lucas) of the set up. The idea of a Romulan diaspora following the massive implosion of their home empire does have solid real world applicability after all, especially if Section 31 were behind it and responsible for Spock only being in time to save everyone else. That would prove an excellent set up for a New Trek series if they were brave enough to take that path and show where Star Trek could succeed where America has failed.
philstar22: (Default)

Re: Inspired by #15

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-13 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That's actually a great idea. And probably better than the show CBS is coming up with. Though I'll still watch because its Star Trek and I can't help myself.

Re: Inspired by #15

(Anonymous) 2016-03-14 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
They flat out said in the movie that Nero coming back and messing with things created an alternate timeline that diverged from the original Trek timeline.

Romulus is still exist in the main universe.
philstar22: (Default)

Re: Inspired by #15

[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-14 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
No it doesn't? Yes, Nero's time travel created an alternate timeline. But in the original timeline Romulus is destroyed.

Re: Inspired by #15

(Anonymous) 2016-03-14 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
You are confusing Vulcan and Romulus. Romulus being destroyed in the real Trek universe kicks of the wormhole thing which Spock and Nero pile through to the doucheTrek verse where Nero blows up Vulcan (and if the producers were as edgy as they claim to be, it would have been Earth that went boom)there. So Vulcan exists, Romulus doesn't.